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From: Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
Cc: PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>,
	"open list:MEDIA DRIVERS FOR RENESAS - FCP" 
	<linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 2/3] PCI: rcar: Do not abort on too many inbound dma-ranges
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 20:17:55 +0200
Message-ID: <c835701d-ff0e-f1b8-af16-fe53febe5519@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqL2c-ODMkOo1tAJh8JeF0VRXahCq2zF2fX8dZV8wpQj+Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/16/19 8:12 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:18 AM Lorenzo Pieralisi
> <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> [+RobH, Robin]
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 05:29:50PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>> The firmware provides all the ranges which are available and usable,
>>>>> that's the hardware description and that should be in the DT.
>>>>
>>>> If the HW (given that those dma-ranges are declared for the PCI host
>>>> controller) can't be programmed to enable those DMA ranges - those
>>>> ranges are neither available nor usable, ergo DT is broken.
>>>
>>> The hardware can be programmed to enable those DMA ranges, just not all
>>> of them at the same time.
>>
>> Ok, we are down to DT bindings interpretation then.
>>
>>> It's not the job of the bootloader to guess which ranges might the next
>>> stage like best.
>>
>> By the time this series:
>>
>> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/user/todo/linux-pci/?series=132419
>>
>> is merged, your policy will require the host controller driver to
>> remove the DMA ranges that could not be programmed in the inbound
>> address decoders from the dma_ranges list, otherwise things will
>> fall apart.
> 
> I don't think the above series has too much impact on this. It's my
> other series dealing with dma masks that's relevant because for dma
> masks we only ever look at the first dma-ranges entry. We either have
> to support multiple addresses and sizes per device (the only way to
> really support any possible dma-ranges), merge entries to single
> offset/mask or have some way to select which range entry to use.
> 
> So things are broken to some extent regardless unless MAX_NR_INBOUND_MAPS == 1.
> 
>>>>> The firmware cannot decide the policy for the next stage (Linux in
>>>>> this case) on which ranges are better to use for Linux and which are
>>>>> less good. Linux can then decide which ranges are best suited for it
>>>>> and ignore the other ones.
>>>>
>>>> dma-ranges is a property that is used by other kernel subsystems eg
>>>> IOMMU other than the RCAR host controller driver. The policy, provided
>>>> there is one should be shared across them. You can't leave a PCI
>>>> host controller half-programmed and expect other subsystems (that
>>>> *expect* those ranges to be DMA'ble) to work.
>>>>
>>>> I reiterate my point: if firmware is broken it is better to fail
>>>> the probe rather than limp on hoping that things will keep on
>>>> working.
>>>
>>> But the firmware is not broken ?
>>
>> See above, it depends on how the dma-ranges property is interpreted,
>> hopefully we can reach consensus in this thread, I won't merge a patch
>> that can backfire later unless we all agree that what it does is
>> correct.
> 
> Defining more dma-ranges entries than the h/w has inbound windows for
> sounds like a broken DT to me.
> 
> What exactly does dma-ranges contain in this case? I'm not really
> visualizing how different clients would pick different dma-ranges
> entries.

You can have multiple non-continuous DRAM banks for example. And an
entry for SRAM optionally. Each DRAM bank and/or the SRAM should have a
separate dma-ranges entry, right ?

-- 
Best regards,
Marek Vasut

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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-09 17:57 [PATCH V3 1/3] PCI: rcar: Move the inbound index check marek.vasut
2019-08-09 17:57 ` [PATCH V3 2/3] PCI: rcar: Do not abort on too many inbound dma-ranges marek.vasut
2019-08-16 13:23   ` Simon Horman
2019-08-16 13:28     ` Marek Vasut
2019-08-16 13:38       ` Simon Horman
2019-08-16 17:41         ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-21 10:18       ` Andrew Murray
2019-10-26 18:03         ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-26 20:36           ` Andrew Murray
2019-10-26 21:06             ` Andrew Murray
2019-11-06 23:37             ` Marek Vasut
2019-11-07 14:19               ` Andrew Murray
2019-10-16 15:00   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-10-16 15:10     ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-16 15:26       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-10-16 15:29         ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-16 16:18           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-10-16 18:12             ` Rob Herring
2019-10-16 18:17               ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2019-10-16 20:25                 ` Rob Herring
2019-10-16 21:15                   ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-16 22:26                     ` Rob Herring
2019-10-16 22:33                       ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-17  7:06                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-17 10:55                           ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-17 13:06                             ` Robin Murphy
2019-10-17 14:00                               ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-17 14:36                                 ` Rob Herring
2019-10-17 15:01                                   ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-18  9:53                                     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-10-18 12:22                                       ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-18 12:53                                         ` Robin Murphy
2019-10-18 14:26                                           ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-18 15:44                                             ` Robin Murphy
2019-10-18 16:44                                               ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-18 17:35                                                 ` Robin Murphy
2019-10-18 18:44                                                   ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-21  8:32                                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-18 10:06                         ` Andrew Murray
2019-10-18 10:17                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-18 11:40                             ` Andrew Murray
2019-08-09 17:57 ` [PATCH V3 3/3] PCI: rcar: Recalculate inbound range alignment for each controller entry marek.vasut
2019-10-21 10:39   ` Andrew Murray
2019-08-16 10:52 ` [PATCH V3 1/3] PCI: rcar: Move the inbound index check Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-08-16 10:59   ` Marek Vasut
2019-08-16 11:10     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-10-15 20:14 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-21 10:11 ` Andrew Murray

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