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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	mingo@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de, hpa@zytor.com,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/10] x86: assembly, FUNC_START for fn, DATA_START for data
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 08:24:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170323132458.wuil6uvri4o2kyom@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170323073819.GA14258@gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 08:38:20AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 08:46:16AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > * Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On 03/22/2017, 08:25 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > * Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >> Hi!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> -ENTRY(saved_rbp)	.quad	0
> > > > >>> -ENTRY(saved_rsi)	.quad	0
> > > > >>> -ENTRY(saved_rdi)	.quad	0
> > > > >>> -ENTRY(saved_rbx)	.quad	0
> > > > >>> +SYM_DATA_START(saved_rbp)		.quad	0
> > > > >>> +SYM_DATA_START(saved_rsi)		.quad	0
> > > > >>> +SYM_DATA_START(saved_rdi)		.quad	0
> > > > >>> +SYM_DATA_START(saved_rbx)		.quad	0
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Does it make sense to call it SYM_DATA_*START* when there's no
> > > > >> corresponding end?
> > > > > 
> > > > > That looks like a bug - I think we should strive for them to always be in pairs.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jiri, Josh, could objtool help here perhaps, to detect 'non-terminated' 
> > > > > SYM_*_START() uses? This could be done by emitting debug data into a special 
> > > > > section and then analyzing that section for unpaired entries. The section can be 
> > > > > discarded in the final link, it won't show up in the kernel image.
> > > > 
> > > > It should be easier than that. No introduction of other info needed --
> > > > every global symbol without a ".type" or ".size" (i.e. SYM_*_END) should
> > > > be a bug now.
> > > 
> > > I'm all for that!
> > 
> > It would be easy to add this checking to objtool since it already reads
> > the symbol table.  The hard part is figuring out the logistics. :-)
> > 
> > - Should the warnings be on by default?
> 
> Yes, if objtool is running. Keep it simple.
> 
> > - Part of the "objtool check" command or something else?
> 
> Yes - I think it's still within the 'object file check' functionality.
> 
> > - Separate config option or just include it with
> >   CONFIG_STACK_VALIDATION?
> 
> Yeah, but I'd rename CONFIG_STACK_VALIDATION to CONFIG_OBJ_VALIDATION or such. As 
> I predicted early on, objtool will go beyond stack checking! ;-)
> 
> > - Should all asm files be checked, including those currently skipped by
> >   objtool with OBJECT_FILES_NON_STANDARD?
> 
> The symbol syntax check should definitely be for all files, yes.

That all sounds reasonable.  I'll work something up.

> Could we perhaps emit 'non-standard stack frames' information into the .o itself 
> (via a flag or a special section?), so that objtool can decide on its own whether 
> to complain about any weirdnesses there?

For the OBJECT_FILES_NON_STANDARD case, where the whole file is
"special", we can just provide a flag to "objtool check" to tell it to
skip stack checking for that file, but still do the symbol checks.

> > > Can we detect double ends as well - i.e. do a build check of the full syntax of 
> > > these symbol definition primitives?
> > 
> > Detecting double ends would be a little trickier.  The second SYM_*_END
> > supersedes the first, so that information isn't in the ELF symbol table.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> > We could use a special section to annotate all the macro uses and have
> > objtool do the checking, similar to what you suggested earlier.
> 
> That might be useful for other purposes as well - such as the non-standard stack 
> frame annotations?

To start with we can try going without all the special sections (other
than the SYM_END double end check).  If we end up finding another case
which isn't covered then we can always add the special sections later.

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-23 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-17 10:47 [PATCH 01/10] x86: assembly, ENTRY for fn, GLOBAL for data Jiri Slaby
2017-02-17 10:47 ` [PATCH 02/10] x86: assembly, use ENDPROC for functions Jiri Slaby
2017-02-17 11:08   ` Juergen Gross
2017-02-17 11:06 ` [PATCH 01/10] x86: assembly, ENTRY for fn, GLOBAL for data Juergen Gross
2017-03-01  9:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-01  9:50   ` Jiri Slaby
2017-03-01 10:09   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-01 10:27     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-03 12:22       ` Jiri Slaby
2017-03-03 18:20       ` hpa
2017-03-06 14:09         ` Jiri Slaby
2017-03-07  7:57         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-03 18:24       ` hpa
2017-03-07  8:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-07 17:24           ` [RFC] linkage: new macros for functions and data Jiri Slaby
2017-03-16  8:02             ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-16  8:13               ` Jiri Slaby
2017-03-20 12:32                 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] linkage: new macros for assembler symbols Jiri Slaby
2017-03-20 12:32                   ` [PATCH v2 02/10] x86: assembly, FUNC_START for fn, DATA_START for data Jiri Slaby
2017-03-20 13:32                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-03-20 15:32                       ` Jiri Slaby
2017-03-20 16:07                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-03-21 14:08                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-03-22  7:25                       ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-22  7:39                         ` Jiri Slaby
2017-03-22  7:46                           ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-22 14:11                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-03-22 15:01                               ` Jiri Slaby
2017-03-22 15:33                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-03-23  7:38                               ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-23 13:24                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2017-03-22 12:06                       ` Jiri Slaby
2017-03-22 15:52                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-03-20 12:32                   ` [PATCH v2 03/10] x86: assembly, use SYM_FUNC_END for functions Jiri Slaby
2017-03-21 14:48                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-03-22  7:29                       ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-22 14:26                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-03-22 15:44                       ` Jiri Slaby
2017-04-10 11:23                         ` Jiri Slaby
2017-04-10 19:35                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-04-12  6:24                             ` Jiri Slaby
2017-04-12  6:52                               ` Ingo Molnar

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