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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>,
	yuankuiz@codeaurora.org, Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] checkpatch: Add a --strict test for structs with bool member definitions
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 09:29:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180411092959.e666ec443e4d3bb6f43901d7@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180411081502.GJ4082@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:15:02 +0200 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 03:00:11PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 14:53:51 -0700 Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, 2018-04-10 at 14:39 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 11:19:54 -0700 Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > A struct with a bool member can have different sizes on various
> > > > > architectures because neither bool size nor alignment is standardized.
> > > > 
> > > > What's wrong with bools in structs?
> > > 
> > > See above.
> > 
> > Yeah, but so what?  `long' has different sizes on different
> > architectures too.
> 
> Right, so we have ILP32/LP64 for all our 32/64 bit archs respectively.
> So only 2 possible variations to consider, and if you know your bitness
> you know your layout.
> 
> (+- some really unfortunate alignment exceptions, the worst of which
> Arnd recently removed, hooray!)
> 
> But neither says anything about sizeof(_Bool), and the standard leaves
> it undefined and only mandates it is large enough to store either 0 or
> 1 (and I suspect this vagueness is because there are architectures that
> either have no byte addressibility or it's more expensive than word
> addressibility).
> 
> Typically GCC chooses a single byte to represent _Bool, but there are no
> guarantees. This means that when you care about structure layout (as we
> all really should) things go wobbly when you use _Bool.
> 
> If GCC were to guarantee a 1 byte _Bool for all Linux ABIs we could
> reconsider.

OK.  I guess.  But I'm not really seeing some snappy description which
helps people understand why checkpatch is warning about this.  We
already have some 500 bools-in-structs and the owners of that code will
be wondering whether they should change them, and whether they should
apply those remove-bool-in-struct patches which someone sent them.

So... can we please get some clarity here?

...

(ooh, https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/11/21/384 is working this morning)

hm, Linus suggests that instead of using

	bool mybool;

we should use

	unsigned mybool:1;

However that introduces the risk that alterations of mybool will use
nonatomic rmw operations.

	unsigned myboolA:1;
	unsigned myboolB:1;

so

	foo->myboolA = 1;

could scribble on concurrent alterations of foo->myboolB.  I think.

I guess that risk is also present if myboolA and myboolB were `bool',
too.  The compiler could do any old thing with them including, perhaps,
using a single-bit bitfield(?).

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-11 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-10  7:33 Subject: [PATCH] [PATCH] time: tick-sched: use bool for tick_stopped yuankuiz
2018-04-10  7:45 ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10  8:51   ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10  8:54     ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10  7:55 ` Subject: [PATCH] " Thomas Gleixner
2018-04-10  8:12   ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10  8:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-04-10  8:15   ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10  9:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-04-10 10:07       ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10 11:06         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-04-10 14:08           ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10 14:49             ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10 23:09               ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10 23:20                 ` yuankuiz
2018-04-20  1:47                   ` yuankuiz
2018-04-20  6:44                     ` yuankuiz
2018-04-20 19:24                       ` Joe Perches
2018-04-25  7:01                         ` yuankuiz
2018-04-10 11:26         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-10 12:07           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-04-10 12:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-10 12:33   ` Subject: [PATCH] " Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-10 15:14     ` Joe Perches
2018-04-10 16:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-10 15:41     ` [PATCH] checkpatch: whinge about bool bitfields Joe Perches
2018-04-10 18:19       ` [PATCH] checkpatch: Add a --strict test for structs with bool member definitions Joe Perches
2018-04-10 21:39         ` Andrew Morton
2018-04-10 21:53           ` Joe Perches
2018-04-10 22:00             ` Andrew Morton
2018-04-11  8:15               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-11 16:29                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2018-04-11 16:51                   ` Joe Perches
2018-04-12  6:22                     ` Julia Lawall
2018-04-12  6:42                       ` Joe Perches
2018-04-12  7:03                         ` Julia Lawall
2018-04-12  8:13                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-14 21:19                         ` Julia Lawall
2018-04-17  9:07                           ` yuankuiz
2018-04-18 18:38                             ` Joe Perches
2018-04-19  4:40                               ` Julia Lawall
2018-04-19  4:51                                 ` Joe Perches
2018-04-19  5:16                                   ` Julia Lawall
2018-04-19  6:48                                     ` yuankuiz
2018-04-19 10:42                                       ` yuankuiz
2018-04-20  1:31                                         ` yuankuiz
2018-04-11 17:00                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-12  7:47                     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-04-12  8:11                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-12  9:35                       ` Andrea Parri
2018-04-12 11:50                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-12 12:01                           ` Joe Perches
2018-04-12 12:08                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-12 12:38                               ` Joe Perches
2018-04-12 16:47                               ` Andrew Morton
2018-04-12 11:52                         ` Kalle Valo

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