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From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
To: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
Cc: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	edubezval@gmail.com, kevin.wangtao@linaro.org,
	leo.yan@linaro.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, javi.merino@kernel.org,
	rui.zhang@intel.com, daniel.thompson@linaro.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Amit Daniel Kachhap <amit.kachhap@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/7] thermal/drivers/cpu_cooling: Introduce the cpu idle cooling driver
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:30:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180416123019.GA9341@e107981-ln.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1c61128a-dea6-b12c-4cd8-ef53a5c8628d@linaro.org>

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 02:10:30PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 16/04/2018 12:10, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > On 16-04-18, 12:03, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> >> On 16/04/2018 11:50, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> >>> On 16-04-18, 11:45, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> >>>> Can you elaborate a bit ? I'm not sure to get the point.
> >>>
> >>> Sure. With your current code on Hikey960 (big/LITTLE), you end up
> >>> creating two cooling devices, one for the big cluster and one for
> >>> small cluster. Which is the right thing to do, as we also have two
> >>> cpufreq cooling devices.
> >>>
> >>> But with the change Sudeep is referring to, the helper you used to get
> >>> cluster id will return 0 (SoC id) for all the 8 CPUs. So your code
> >>> will end up creating a single cpuidle cooling device for all the CPUs.
> >>> Which would be wrong.
> >>
> >> Is the semantic of topology_physical_package_id changing ?
> > 
> > That's what I understood from his email.
> > 
> >> I don't
> >> understand the change Sudeep is referring to.
> 
> Actually there is no impact with the change Sudeep is referring to. It
> is for ACPI, we are DT based. Confirmed with Jeremy.
> 
> So AFAICT, it is not a problem.

It is a problem - DT or ACPI alike. Sudeep was referring to the notion
of "cluster" that has no architectural meaning whatsoever and using
topology_physical_package_id() to detect a "cluster" was/is/will always
be the wrong thing to do. The notion of cluster must not appear in the
kernel at all, it has no architectural meaning. I understand you need
to group CPUs but that has to be done in a different way, through
cooling devices, thermal domains or power domains DT/ACPI bindings but
not by using topology masks.

You should be able to figure out this week at OSPM the reasoning behind
what I am saying above.

Cheers,
Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-16 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-05 16:16 [PATCH v3 0/7] CPU cooling device new strategies Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-05 16:16 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] thermal/drivers/cpu_cooling: Fixup the header and copyright Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]   ` <20180411061514.GL7671@vireshk-i7>
2018-04-11  8:56     ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-05 16:16 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] thermal/drivers/cpu_cooling: Add Software Package Data Exchange (SPDX) Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-05 16:16 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] thermal/drivers/cpu_cooling: Remove pointless field Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-05 16:16 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] thermal/drivers/Kconfig: Convert the CPU cooling device to a choice Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]   ` <20180411061851.GM7671@vireshk-i7>
2018-04-11  8:58     ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-05 16:16 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] thermal/drivers/cpu_cooling: Add idle cooling device documentation Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-05 16:16 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] thermal/drivers/cpu_cooling: Introduce the cpu idle cooling driver Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-11  8:51   ` Viresh Kumar
2018-04-11  9:29     ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-13 11:23   ` Sudeep Holla
2018-04-13 11:47     ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-16  7:37       ` Viresh Kumar
2018-04-16  7:44         ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-16  9:34           ` Sudeep Holla
2018-04-16  9:37           ` Viresh Kumar
2018-04-16  9:45             ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-16  9:50               ` Viresh Kumar
2018-04-16 10:03                 ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-16 10:10                   ` Viresh Kumar
2018-04-16 12:10                     ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-16 12:30                       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi [this message]
2018-04-16 13:57                         ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-16 14:22                           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-04-17  7:17                             ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-17 10:24                               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-04-16 12:31                       ` Sudeep Holla
2018-04-16 12:49                         ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-16 13:03                           ` Sudeep Holla
2018-04-16 12:29                 ` Sudeep Holla
2018-04-13 11:38   ` Daniel Thompson
2018-04-13 11:46     ` Daniel Lezcano
2019-08-05  5:11   ` Martin Kepplinger
2019-08-05  6:53     ` Martin Kepplinger
2019-08-05  7:39       ` Daniel Lezcano
2019-08-05  7:42         ` Martin Kepplinger
2019-08-05  7:58           ` Daniel Lezcano
2019-10-25 11:22             ` Martin Kepplinger
2019-10-25 14:45               ` Daniel Lezcano
2019-10-26 18:23                 ` Martin Kepplinger
2019-10-28 15:16                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2019-08-05  7:37     ` Daniel Lezcano
2019-08-05  7:40       ` Martin Kepplinger
2018-04-05 16:16 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] cpuidle/drivers/cpuidle-arm: Register the cooling device Daniel Lezcano
2018-04-11  8:51   ` Viresh Kumar

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