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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Linux PM" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpuidle-haltpoll: Enable kvm guest polling when dedicated physical CPUs are available
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 11:39:06 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190829143904.GA13983@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190829125304.GA12214@amt.cnet>

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 09:53:04AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 08:16:41PM +0800, Wanpeng Li wrote:
> > > Current situation regarding haltpoll driver is:
> > >
> > > overcommit group: haltpoll driver is not loaded by default, they are
> > > happy.
> > >
> > > non overcommit group: boots without "realtime hints" flag, loads haltpoll driver,
> > > happy.
> > >
> > > Situation with patch above:
> > >
> > > overcommit group: haltpoll driver is not loaded by default, they are
> > > happy.
> > >
> > > non overcommit group: boots without "realtime hints" flag, haltpoll driver
> > > cannot be loaded.
> > 
> > non overcommit group, if they don't care latency/performance, they
> > don't need to enable haltpoll, "realtime hints" etc. Otherwise, they
> > should better tune.
> 
> As mentioned before, "being overcommitted" is a property which is transitional.
> 
> A static true/false scheme reflects this poorly.
> 
> Therefore the OS should detect it and act accordingly.

Hi Wanpeng Li,

One suggestion for a dynamic "is overcommited" scheme:

If the amount of stolen time, in the past record_steal_time window, 
is more than 20% of the time in that window, then mark system
as overcommitted. Otherwise, clear it.

Make that 20% configurable by as kvm module parameter.

Use that info to enable/disable overcommit features.

That should work, right?





  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-29 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1564643196-7797-1-git-send-email-wanpengli@tencent.com>
2019-08-01 16:51 ` [PATCH] cpuidle-haltpoll: Enable kvm guest polling when dedicated physical CPUs are available Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-01 16:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-03 20:21     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-13  0:55       ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-13  7:55         ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-26 20:40         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-27  0:43           ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-28  8:35             ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-28  8:45               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-28  8:48                 ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-28 14:39                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-28 23:37                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-29 12:04                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-29 12:16                       ` Wanpeng Li
2019-08-29 12:53                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-29 14:39                           ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2019-08-28 14:48             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-08-28 14:52               ` Marcelo Tosatti

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