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From: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Amit Daniel Kachhap <amit.kachhap@gmail.com>,
	Javi Merino <javi.merino@kernel.org>,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@verdurent.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"open list:THERMAL" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] thermal: cpufreq_cooling: Reuse effective_cpu_util()
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:54:14 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200730062414.uq3ip7ukpu7nkiyg@vireshk-mac-ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtA+BPegK2h6PQMFs+p4dpxO+sk1FDQuOfJvSpGCJ-rBrA@mail.gmail.com>

On 17-07-20, 11:46, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 16:24, Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com> wrote:
> > On 7/16/20 12:56 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > Currently cpufreq_cooling appears to estimate the CPU energy usage by
> > > calculating the percentage of idle time using the per-cpu cpustat stuff,
> > > which is pretty horrific.
> >
> > Even worse, it then *samples* the *current* CPU frequency at that
> > particular point in time and assumes that when the CPU wasn't idle
> > during that period - it had *this* frequency...
> 
> So there is 2 problems in the power calculation of cpufreq cooling device :
> - How to get an accurate utilization level of the cpu which is what
> this patch is trying to fix because using idle time is just wrong
> whereas scheduler utilization is frequency invariant

Since this patch is targeted only towards fixing this particular
problem, should I change something in the patch to make it acceptable
?

> - How to get power estimate from this utilization level. And as you
> pointed out, using the current freq which is not accurate.

This should be tackled separately I believe.

-- 
viresh

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-30  6:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-14  6:36 [PATCH 0/2] cpufreq_cooling: Get effective CPU utilization from scheduler Viresh Kumar
2020-07-14  6:36 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/core: Rename and move schedutil_cpu_util to core.c Viresh Kumar
2020-07-14 12:52   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-07-14  6:36 ` [PATCH 2/2] thermal: cpufreq_cooling: Reuse effective_cpu_util() Viresh Kumar
2020-07-14  8:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-14 13:05   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-07-15  7:32     ` Viresh Kumar
2020-07-15 12:47       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-07-16 11:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-16 14:24     ` Lukasz Luba
2020-07-16 15:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-17  9:55         ` Lukasz Luba
2020-07-17  9:46       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-07-17 10:30         ` Lukasz Luba
2020-07-17 12:13           ` Vincent Guittot
2020-07-30  6:24         ` Viresh Kumar [this message]
2020-07-30 11:16           ` Lukasz Luba
2020-10-19  7:40             ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-19 11:10               ` Lukasz Luba
2020-10-22  8:32     ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-22  9:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 11:06         ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-22 11:30           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 11:57             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 12:07               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 11:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-17 10:14   ` Quentin Perret
2020-07-17 10:33     ` Quentin Perret
2020-07-17 10:43       ` Quentin Perret
2020-07-22  9:13         ` Viresh Kumar

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