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From: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
To: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	cristian.marussi@arm.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] CPUFreq statistics retrieved by drivers
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 16:08:57 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200804103857.mxgkmt6qmmzejuzb@vireshk-mac-ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f784bf30-83a6-55ff-8fa6-f7bd2d4399b9@arm.com>

On 04-08-20, 11:29, Lukasz Luba wrote:
> On 8/4/20 6:35 AM, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > IIUC, the only concern right now is to capture stats with fast switch ? Maybe we
> > can do something else in that case and brainstorm a bit..
> 
> Correct, the fast switch is the only concern right now and not tracked. We
> could fill in that information with statistics data from firmware
> with a cpufreq driver help.
> 
> I could make the if from patch 1/4 covering narrowed case, when
> fast switch is present, check for drivers stats.
> Something like:
> -----------8<------------------------------------------------------------
> if (policy->fast_switch_enabled)
> 	if (policy->has_driver_stats)
> 		return cpufreq_stats_present_driver_data(policy, buf);
> 	else
> 		return 0;
> -------------->8----------------------------------------------------------

I don't think doing it with help of firmware is the right thing to do
here then. For another platform we may not have a firmware which can
help us, we need something in the opp core itself for that. Lemme see
if I can do something about it.

> > Why is firmware the governor here ? Aren't you talking about the simple fast
> > switch case only ?
> 
> I used a term 'governor' for the firmware because it makes the final
> set for the frequency. It (FW) should respect the frequency value
> set using the fast switch. I don't know how other firmware (e.g. Intel)
> treats this fast switch value or if they even expose FW stats, though.

For Intel I think, Linux is one of the entities that vote for deciding
the frequency of the CPUs and the firmware (after taking all such
factors into account) chooses a frequency by its own, which must be >=
the frequency requested by Linux.

> You can read about this statistics region in [1] at:
> 4.5.5 Performance domain statistics shared memory region
> 
> > 
> > Over that, I think this cpufreq stats information isn't parsed by any tool right
> > now and tweaking it a bit won't hurt anyone (like if we start capturing things a
> > bit differently). So we may not want to worry about breaking userspace ABI here,
> > if what we are looking to do is the right thing to do.
> 
> So, there is some hope... IMHO it would be better to have this cpufreq
> stats in normal location, rather then in scmi debugfs.

I agree.

> > I am not sure what notifications are we talking about here.
> 
> There is a notification mechanism described in the SCMI spec [1] at
> 4.5.4 Notifications.
> We were referring to that mechanism.

Ahh, I see. All I was thinking was about the cpufreq specific
notifiers :)

-- 
viresh

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-04 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-29 15:12 [PATCH 0/4] CPUFreq statistics retrieved by drivers Lukasz Luba
2020-07-29 15:12 ` [PATCH 1/4] cpufreq: Add support for statistics read from drivers Lukasz Luba
2020-07-29 15:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] scmi: perf: Extend protocol to support performance statistics Lukasz Luba
2020-07-31  1:50   ` kernel test robot
2020-07-31 15:15   ` Cristian Marussi
2020-08-04 11:10     ` Lukasz Luba
2020-07-29 15:12 ` [PATCH 3/4] cpufreq: scmi: Move scmi_cpufreq_driver structure to the top Lukasz Luba
2020-07-29 15:12 ` [PATCH 4/4] cpufreq: scmi: Read statistics from FW shared memory Lukasz Luba
2020-07-30  8:53 ` [PATCH 0/4] CPUFreq statistics retrieved by drivers Viresh Kumar
2020-07-30  9:10   ` Sudeep Holla
2020-07-30  9:36     ` Lukasz Luba
2020-07-31 15:56       ` Sudeep Holla
2020-08-04 17:19         ` Florian Fainelli
2020-08-05 12:36           ` Sudeep Holla
2020-08-04  5:35       ` Viresh Kumar
2020-08-04 10:29         ` Lukasz Luba
2020-08-04 10:38           ` Viresh Kumar [this message]
2020-08-04 10:44             ` Lukasz Luba
2020-09-02  7:26               ` Viresh Kumar
2020-08-04 17:27 ` Florian Fainelli
2020-08-05 11:04   ` Lukasz Luba
2020-08-05 13:04     ` Viresh Kumar
2020-08-05 16:03       ` Sudeep Holla
2020-08-05 17:33         ` Florian Fainelli
2020-08-06 13:37           ` Sudeep Holla

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