[PATCH 0/3] PWM backlight interpolation adjustments

[PATCH 0/3] PWM backlight interpolation adjustments

[Alexandru Stan]

I was trying to adjust the brightness for a new chromebook:
https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/2291209
Like a lot of panels, the low end needs to be cropped,
and now that we have the interpolation stuff I wanted to make use of it
and bake in even the curve.

I found the behavior a little unintuitive and non-linear. See patch 1
for a suggested fix for this.

Unfortunatelly a few veyron dts files were relying on this
(perhaps weird) behavior. Those devices also want a minimum brightness.
The issue is that they also want the 0% point for turning off the
display.
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/6233269bce47bd450196a671ab28eb1ec5eb88d9#diff-e401ae20091bbfb311a062c464f4f47fL23

So the idea here is to change those dts files to only say <3 255> (patch
3), and add in a virtual 0% point at the bottom of the scale (patch 2).

We have to do this conditionally because it seems some devices like to
have the scale inverted:
  % git grep "brightness-levels\s*=\s*<\s*[1-9]"|cat
  arch/arm/boot/dts/tegra124-apalis-eval.dts:             brightness-levels = <255 231 223 207 191 159 127 0>;


Alexandru Stan (3):
  backlight: pwm_bl: Fix interpolation
  backlight: pwm_bl: Artificially add 0% during interpolation
  ARM: dts: rockchip: Remove 0 point in backlight

 arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-veyron-jaq.dts    |  2 +-
 arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-veyron-minnie.dts |  2 +-
 arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-veyron-tiger.dts  |  2 +-
 drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c           | 78 +++++++++++-----------
 4 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 42 deletions(-)

-- 
2.27.0

[PATCH 1/3] backlight: pwm_bl: Fix interpolation

[Alexandru Stan]

Whenever num-interpolated-steps was larger than the distance
between 2 consecutive brightness levels the table would get really
discontinuous. The slope of the interpolation would stick with
integers only and if it was 0 the whole line segment would get skipped.

Example settings:
	brightness-levels = <0 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256>;
	num-interpolated-steps = <16>;

The distances between 1 2 4 and 8 would be 1, and only starting with 16
it would start to interpolate properly.

Let's change it so there's always interpolation happening, even if
there's no enough points available (read: values in the table would
appear more than once). This should match the expected behavior much
more closely.

Reviewed-by: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Reviewed-by: Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
Signed-off-by: Alexandru Stan <amstan@chromium.org>
---

 drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c | 70 ++++++++++++++------------------
 1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 39 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
index 82b8d7594701..5193a72305a2 100644
--- a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
+++ b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
@@ -235,8 +235,7 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
 				  struct platform_pwm_backlight_data *data)
 {
 	struct device_node *node = dev->of_node;
-	unsigned int num_levels = 0;
-	unsigned int levels_count;
+	unsigned int num_levels;
 	unsigned int num_steps = 0;
 	struct property *prop;
 	unsigned int *table;
@@ -265,12 +264,11 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
 	if (!prop)
 		return 0;
 
-	data->max_brightness = length / sizeof(u32);
+	num_levels = length / sizeof(u32);
 
 	/* read brightness levels from DT property */
-	if (data->max_brightness > 0) {
-		size_t size = sizeof(*data->levels) * data->max_brightness;
-		unsigned int i, j, n = 0;
+	if (num_levels > 0) {
+		size_t size = sizeof(*data->levels) * num_levels;
 
 		data->levels = devm_kzalloc(dev, size, GFP_KERNEL);
 		if (!data->levels)
@@ -278,7 +276,7 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
 
 		ret = of_property_read_u32_array(node, "brightness-levels",
 						 data->levels,
-						 data->max_brightness);
+						 num_levels);
 		if (ret < 0)
 			return ret;
 
@@ -303,7 +301,13 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
 		 * between two points.
 		 */
 		if (num_steps) {
-			if (data->max_brightness < 2) {
+			unsigned int num_input_levels = num_levels;
+			unsigned int i;
+			u32 x1, x2, x;
+			u32 y1, y2;
+			s64 dx, dy;
+
+			if (num_input_levels < 2) {
 				dev_err(dev, "can't interpolate\n");
 				return -EINVAL;
 			}
@@ -313,14 +317,7 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
 			 * taking in consideration the number of interpolated
 			 * steps between two levels.
 			 */
-			for (i = 0; i < data->max_brightness - 1; i++) {
-				if ((data->levels[i + 1] - data->levels[i]) /
-				   num_steps)
-					num_levels += num_steps;
-				else
-					num_levels++;
-			}
-			num_levels++;
+			num_levels = (num_input_levels - 1) * num_steps + 1;
 			dev_dbg(dev, "new number of brightness levels: %d\n",
 				num_levels);
 
@@ -332,24 +329,25 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
 			table = devm_kzalloc(dev, size, GFP_KERNEL);
 			if (!table)
 				return -ENOMEM;
-
-			/* Fill the interpolated table. */
-			levels_count = 0;
-			for (i = 0; i < data->max_brightness - 1; i++) {
-				value = data->levels[i];
-				n = (data->levels[i + 1] - value) / num_steps;
-				if (n > 0) {
-					for (j = 0; j < num_steps; j++) {
-						table[levels_count] = value;
-						value += n;
-						levels_count++;
-					}
-				} else {
-					table[levels_count] = data->levels[i];
-					levels_count++;
+			/*
+			 * Fill the interpolated table[x] = y
+			 * by draw lines between each (x1, y1) to (x2, y2).
+			 */
+			dx = num_steps;
+			for (i = 0; i < num_input_levels - 1; i++) {
+				x1 = i * dx;
+				x2 = x1 + dx;
+				y1 = data->levels[i];
+				y2 = data->levels[i + 1];
+				dy = y2 - y1;
+
+				for (x = x1; x < x2; x++) {
+					table[x] = y1 +
+						div_s64(dy * (x - x1), dx);
 				}
 			}
-			table[levels_count] = data->levels[i];
+			/* Fill in the last point, since no line starts here. */
+			table[x2] = y2;
 
 			/*
 			 * As we use interpolation lets remove current
@@ -358,15 +356,9 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
 			 */
 			devm_kfree(dev, data->levels);
 			data->levels = table;
-
-			/*
-			 * Reassign max_brightness value to the new total number
-			 * of brightness levels.
-			 */
-			data->max_brightness = num_levels;
 		}
 
-		data->max_brightness--;
+		data->max_brightness = num_levels - 1;
 	}
 
 	return 0;
-- 
2.27.0

[PATCH 2/3] backlight: pwm_bl: Artificially add 0% during interpolation

[Alexandru Stan]

Some displays need the low end of the curve cropped in order to make
them happy. In that case we still want to have the 0% point, even though
anything between 0% and 5%(example) would be skipped.

Signed-off-by: Alexandru Stan <amstan@chromium.org>
---

 drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c | 8 ++++++++
 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)

diff --git a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
index 5193a72305a2..b24711ddf504 100644
--- a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
+++ b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
@@ -349,6 +349,14 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
 			/* Fill in the last point, since no line starts here. */
 			table[x2] = y2;
 
+			/*
+			 * If we don't start at 0 yet we're increasing, assume
+			 * the dts wanted to crop the low end of the range, so
+			 * insert a 0 to provide a display off mode.
+			 */
+			if (table[0] > 0 && table[0] < table[num_levels - 1])
+				table[0] = 0;
+
 			/*
 			 * As we use interpolation lets remove current
 			 * brightness levels table and replace for the
-- 
2.27.0

Re: [PATCH 0/3] PWM backlight interpolation adjustments

[Alexandru M Stan]

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 9:27 PM Alexandru Stan <amstan@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> I was trying to adjust the brightness for a new chromebook:
> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/2291209
> Like a lot of panels, the low end needs to be cropped,
> and now that we have the interpolation stuff I wanted to make use of it
> and bake in even the curve.
>
> I found the behavior a little unintuitive and non-linear. See patch 1
> for a suggested fix for this.
>
> Unfortunatelly a few veyron dts files were relying on this
> (perhaps weird) behavior. Those devices also want a minimum brightness.
> The issue is that they also want the 0% point for turning off the
> display.
> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/6233269bce47bd450196a671ab28eb1ec5eb88d9#diff-e401ae20091bbfb311a062c464f4f47fL23
>
> So the idea here is to change those dts files to only say <3 255> (patch
> 3), and add in a virtual 0% point at the bottom of the scale (patch 2).
>
> We have to do this conditionally because it seems some devices like to
> have the scale inverted:
>   % git grep "brightness-levels\s*=\s*<\s*[1-9]"|cat
>   arch/arm/boot/dts/tegra124-apalis-eval.dts:             brightness-levels = <255 231 223 207 191 159 127 0>;
>
>
> Alexandru Stan (3):
>   backlight: pwm_bl: Fix interpolation
>   backlight: pwm_bl: Artificially add 0% during interpolation
>   ARM: dts: rockchip: Remove 0 point in backlight
>
>  arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-veyron-jaq.dts    |  2 +-
>  arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-veyron-minnie.dts |  2 +-
>  arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-veyron-tiger.dts  |  2 +-
>  drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c           | 78 +++++++++++-----------
>  4 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 42 deletions(-)
>
> --
> 2.27.0
>

Hello,

Friendly ping.
Let me know if you would like me to make any changes to my patches.

Thanks,
Alexandru M Stan

Re: [PATCH 2/3] backlight: pwm_bl: Artificially add 0% during interpolation

[daniel]

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:25:21PM -0700, Alexandru Stan wrote:
> Some displays need the low end of the curve cropped in order to make
> them happy. In that case we still want to have the 0% point, even though
> anything between 0% and 5%(example) would be skipped.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Alexandru Stan <amstan@chromium.org>
> ---
> 
>  drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c | 8 ++++++++
>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> index 5193a72305a2..b24711ddf504 100644
> --- a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> +++ b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> @@ -349,6 +349,14 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
>  			/* Fill in the last point, since no line starts here. */
>  			table[x2] = y2;
>  
> +			/*
> +			 * If we don't start at 0 yet we're increasing, assume
> +			 * the dts wanted to crop the low end of the range, so
> +			 * insert a 0 to provide a display off mode.
> +			 */
> +			if (table[0] > 0 && table[0] < table[num_levels - 1])
> +				table[0] = 0;

Isn't that what the enable/disable switch in backlights are for? There's
lots of backligh drivers (mostly the firmware variety) where setting the
backlight to 0 does not shut it off, it's just the lowest setting.

But I've not been involved in the details of these discussions.
-Daniel

> +
>  			/*
>  			 * As we use interpolation lets remove current
>  			 * brightness levels table and replace for the
> -- 
> 2.27.0
> 
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Re: [PATCH 2/3] backlight: pwm_bl: Artificially add 0% during interpolation

[Daniel Thompson]

On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 10:21:13AM +0200, daniel@ffwll.ch wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:25:21PM -0700, Alexandru Stan wrote:
> > Some displays need the low end of the curve cropped in order to make
> > them happy. In that case we still want to have the 0% point, even though
> > anything between 0% and 5%(example) would be skipped.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Alexandru Stan <amstan@chromium.org>
> > ---
> > 
> >  drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c | 8 ++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > index 5193a72305a2..b24711ddf504 100644
> > --- a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > +++ b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > @@ -349,6 +349,14 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
> >  			/* Fill in the last point, since no line starts here. */
> >  			table[x2] = y2;
> >  
> > +			/*
> > +			 * If we don't start at 0 yet we're increasing, assume
> > +			 * the dts wanted to crop the low end of the range, so
> > +			 * insert a 0 to provide a display off mode.
> > +			 */
> > +			if (table[0] > 0 && table[0] < table[num_levels - 1])
> > +				table[0] = 0;
> 
> Isn't that what the enable/disable switch in backlights are for? There's
> lots of backligh drivers (mostly the firmware variety) where setting the
> backlight to 0 does not shut it off, it's just the lowest setting.
> 
> But I've not been involved in the details of these discussions.

It's been a long standing complaint that the backlight drivers are not
consistent w.r.t. whether 0 means off or lowest. The most commonly used
backlights (ACPI in particular) do not adopt 0 means off but lots of
specific drivers do.

IMHO what is "right" depends on the display technology. For displays
that are essentially black when the backlight is off and become
difficult or impossible to read I'm a little dubious about standardizing
on zero means off. There are situations when zero means off
does make sense however. For example front-lit or transflexive displays
are readable when the "backlight" is off and on these displays it would
make sense.


Daniel.

Re: [PATCH 1/3] backlight: pwm_bl: Fix interpolation

[Daniel Thompson]

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:25:20PM -0700, Alexandru Stan wrote:
> Whenever num-interpolated-steps was larger than the distance
> between 2 consecutive brightness levels the table would get really
> discontinuous. The slope of the interpolation would stick with
> integers only and if it was 0 the whole line segment would get skipped.
> 
> Example settings:
> 	brightness-levels = <0 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256>;
> 	num-interpolated-steps = <16>;
> 
> The distances between 1 2 4 and 8 would be 1, and only starting with 16
> it would start to interpolate properly.
> 
> Let's change it so there's always interpolation happening, even if
> there's no enough points available (read: values in the table would
> appear more than once). This should match the expected behavior much
> more closely.
> 
> Reviewed-by: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
> Reviewed-by: Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
> Signed-off-by: Alexandru Stan <amstan@chromium.org>

Apologies for the delay. Patch 2/3 meant I had some thinking to do...
and then the holiday's took their toll.

Overall this looks good, just some quibbles about broken 64-bit maths.


> ---
> 
>  drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c | 70 ++++++++++++++------------------
>  1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 39 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> index 82b8d7594701..5193a72305a2 100644
> --- a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> +++ b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> @@ -235,8 +235,7 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
>  				  struct platform_pwm_backlight_data *data)
>  {
>  	struct device_node *node = dev->of_node;
> -	unsigned int num_levels = 0;
> -	unsigned int levels_count;
> +	unsigned int num_levels;
>  	unsigned int num_steps = 0;
>  	struct property *prop;
>  	unsigned int *table;
> @@ -265,12 +264,11 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
>  	if (!prop)
>  		return 0;
>  
> -	data->max_brightness = length / sizeof(u32);
> +	num_levels = length / sizeof(u32);
>  
>  	/* read brightness levels from DT property */
> -	if (data->max_brightness > 0) {
> -		size_t size = sizeof(*data->levels) * data->max_brightness;
> -		unsigned int i, j, n = 0;
> +	if (num_levels > 0) {
> +		size_t size = sizeof(*data->levels) * num_levels;
>  
>  		data->levels = devm_kzalloc(dev, size, GFP_KERNEL);
>  		if (!data->levels)
> @@ -278,7 +276,7 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
>  
>  		ret = of_property_read_u32_array(node, "brightness-levels",
>  						 data->levels,
> -						 data->max_brightness);
> +						 num_levels);
>  		if (ret < 0)
>  			return ret;
>  
> @@ -303,7 +301,13 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
>  		 * between two points.
>  		 */
>  		if (num_steps) {
> -			if (data->max_brightness < 2) {
> +			unsigned int num_input_levels = num_levels;
> +			unsigned int i;
> +			u32 x1, x2, x;
> +			u32 y1, y2;
> +			s64 dx, dy;

dx should be 32-bit. It will be truncated to 32-bit when passed to
div_s64() so this type is actively misleading about how the maths
works.


> +
> +			if (num_input_levels < 2) {
>  				dev_err(dev, "can't interpolate\n");
>  				return -EINVAL;
>  			}
> @@ -313,14 +317,7 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
>  			 * taking in consideration the number of interpolated
>  			 * steps between two levels.
>  			 */
> -			for (i = 0; i < data->max_brightness - 1; i++) {
> -				if ((data->levels[i + 1] - data->levels[i]) /
> -				   num_steps)
> -					num_levels += num_steps;
> -				else
> -					num_levels++;
> -			}
> -			num_levels++;
> +			num_levels = (num_input_levels - 1) * num_steps + 1;
>  			dev_dbg(dev, "new number of brightness levels: %d\n",
>  				num_levels);
>  
> @@ -332,24 +329,25 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
>  			table = devm_kzalloc(dev, size, GFP_KERNEL);
>  			if (!table)
>  				return -ENOMEM;
> -
> -			/* Fill the interpolated table. */
> -			levels_count = 0;
> -			for (i = 0; i < data->max_brightness - 1; i++) {
> -				value = data->levels[i];
> -				n = (data->levels[i + 1] - value) / num_steps;
> -				if (n > 0) {
> -					for (j = 0; j < num_steps; j++) {
> -						table[levels_count] = value;
> -						value += n;
> -						levels_count++;
> -					}
> -				} else {
> -					table[levels_count] = data->levels[i];
> -					levels_count++;
> +			/*
> +			 * Fill the interpolated table[x] = y
> +			 * by draw lines between each (x1, y1) to (x2, y2).
> +			 */
> +			dx = num_steps;
> +			for (i = 0; i < num_input_levels - 1; i++) {
> +				x1 = i * dx;
> +				x2 = x1 + dx;
> +				y1 = data->levels[i];
> +				y2 = data->levels[i + 1];
> +				dy = y2 - y1;

This is an u32 expression being assigned to a s64. I could be rusty on
my fixed point maths but won't this promote too late for the 64-bitness
of dy to be useful?


Daniel.

> +
> +				for (x = x1; x < x2; x++) {
> +					table[x] = y1 +
> +						div_s64(dy * (x - x1), dx);
>  				}
>  			}
> -			table[levels_count] = data->levels[i];
> +			/* Fill in the last point, since no line starts here. */
> +			table[x2] = y2;
>  
>  			/*
>  			 * As we use interpolation lets remove current
> @@ -358,15 +356,9 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
>  			 */
>  			devm_kfree(dev, data->levels);
>  			data->levels = table;
> -
> -			/*
> -			 * Reassign max_brightness value to the new total number
> -			 * of brightness levels.
> -			 */
> -			data->max_brightness = num_levels;
>  		}
>  
> -		data->max_brightness--;
> +		data->max_brightness = num_levels - 1;
>  	}
>  
>  	return 0;
> -- 
> 2.27.0

Re: [PATCH 2/3] backlight: pwm_bl: Artificially add 0% during interpolation

[Daniel Thompson]

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:25:21PM -0700, Alexandru Stan wrote:
> Some displays need the low end of the curve cropped in order to make
> them happy. In that case we still want to have the 0% point, even though
> anything between 0% and 5%(example) would be skipped.

For backlights it is not defined that 0 means off and, to be honest, 0
means off is actually rather weird for anything except transflexive
or front lit reflective displays[1]. There is a problem on several
systems that when the backlight slider is reduced to zero you can't
see the screen properly to turn it back up. This patch looks like it
would make that problem worse by hurting systems with will written
device trees.

There is some nasty legacy here: some backlight displays that are off
at zero and that sucks because userspace doesn't know whether zero is
off or lowest possible setting.

Nevertheless perhaps a better way to handle this case is for 0 to map to
5% power and for the userspace to turn the backlight on/off as final
step in an animated backlight fade out (and one again for a fade in).


Daniel.

> 
> Signed-off-by: Alexandru Stan <amstan@chromium.org>
> ---
> 
>  drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c | 8 ++++++++
>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> index 5193a72305a2..b24711ddf504 100644
> --- a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> +++ b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> @@ -349,6 +349,14 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
>  			/* Fill in the last point, since no line starts here. */
>  			table[x2] = y2;
>  
> +			/*
> +			 * If we don't start at 0 yet we're increasing, assume
> +			 * the dts wanted to crop the low end of the range, so
> +			 * insert a 0 to provide a display off mode.
> +			 */
> +			if (table[0] > 0 && table[0] < table[num_levels - 1])
> +				table[0] = 0;
> +
>  			/*
>  			 * As we use interpolation lets remove current
>  			 * brightness levels table and replace for the
> -- 
> 2.27.0

Re: [PATCH 2/3] backlight: pwm_bl: Artificially add 0% during interpolation

[Daniel Vetter]

On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 12:38:22PM +0100, Daniel Thompson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:25:21PM -0700, Alexandru Stan wrote:
> > Some displays need the low end of the curve cropped in order to make
> > them happy. In that case we still want to have the 0% point, even though
> > anything between 0% and 5%(example) would be skipped.
> 
> For backlights it is not defined that 0 means off and, to be honest, 0
> means off is actually rather weird for anything except transflexive
> or front lit reflective displays[1]. There is a problem on several
> systems that when the backlight slider is reduced to zero you can't
> see the screen properly to turn it back up. This patch looks like it
> would make that problem worse by hurting systems with will written
> device trees.
> 
> There is some nasty legacy here: some backlight displays that are off
> at zero and that sucks because userspace doesn't know whether zero is
> off or lowest possible setting.
> 
> Nevertheless perhaps a better way to handle this case is for 0 to map to
> 5% power and for the userspace to turn the backlight on/off as final
> step in an animated backlight fade out (and one again for a fade in).

Afaik chromeos encodes "0 means off" somewhere in there stack. We've
gotten similar patches for the i915 backlight driver when we started
obeying the panel's lower limit in our pwm backlight driver thing that's
sometimes used instead of acpi.

There's also the problem that with fancy panels with protocol (dsi, edp,
...) shutting of the backlight completely out of the proper power sequence
hangs the panel (for some panels at least), so providing a backlight off
that doesn't go through the drm modeset sequence isn't always possible.

It's a bit a mess indeed :-/
-Daniel

> 
> 
> Daniel.
> 
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Alexandru Stan <amstan@chromium.org>
> > ---
> > 
> >  drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c | 8 ++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > index 5193a72305a2..b24711ddf504 100644
> > --- a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > +++ b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > @@ -349,6 +349,14 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
> >  			/* Fill in the last point, since no line starts here. */
> >  			table[x2] = y2;
> >  
> > +			/*
> > +			 * If we don't start at 0 yet we're increasing, assume
> > +			 * the dts wanted to crop the low end of the range, so
> > +			 * insert a 0 to provide a display off mode.
> > +			 */
> > +			if (table[0] > 0 && table[0] < table[num_levels - 1])
> > +				table[0] = 0;
> > +
> >  			/*
> >  			 * As we use interpolation lets remove current
> >  			 * brightness levels table and replace for the
> > -- 
> > 2.27.0
> _______________________________________________
> dri-devel mailing list
> dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel

-- 
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Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

Re: [PATCH 2/3] backlight: pwm_bl: Artificially add 0% during interpolation

[Daniel Thompson]

On Mon, Sep 07, 2020 at 09:50:18AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 12:38:22PM +0100, Daniel Thompson wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:25:21PM -0700, Alexandru Stan wrote:
> > > Some displays need the low end of the curve cropped in order to make
> > > them happy. In that case we still want to have the 0% point, even though
> > > anything between 0% and 5%(example) would be skipped.
> > 
> > For backlights it is not defined that 0 means off and, to be honest, 0
> > means off is actually rather weird for anything except transflexive
> > or front lit reflective displays[1]. There is a problem on several
> > systems that when the backlight slider is reduced to zero you can't
> > see the screen properly to turn it back up. This patch looks like it
> > would make that problem worse by hurting systems with will written
> > device trees.
> > 
> > There is some nasty legacy here: some backlight displays that are off
> > at zero and that sucks because userspace doesn't know whether zero is
> > off or lowest possible setting.
> > 
> > Nevertheless perhaps a better way to handle this case is for 0 to map to
> > 5% power and for the userspace to turn the backlight on/off as final
> > step in an animated backlight fade out (and one again for a fade in).
> 
> Afaik chromeos encodes "0 means off" somewhere in there stack. We've
> gotten similar patches for the i915 backlight driver when we started
> obeying the panel's lower limit in our pwm backlight driver thing that's
> sometimes used instead of acpi.

Out of interest... were they accepted?

I did took a quick look at intel_panel.c and didn't see anything
that appeared to be special casing zero but I thought I might double
check.


Daniel.


> There's also the problem that with fancy panels with protocol (dsi, edp,
> ...) shutting of the backlight completely out of the proper power sequence
> hangs the panel (for some panels at least), so providing a backlight off
> that doesn't go through the drm modeset sequence isn't always possible.
> 
> It's a bit a mess indeed :-/
> -Daniel
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Daniel.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Alexandru Stan <amstan@chromium.org>
> > > ---
> > > 
> > >  drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c | 8 ++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > > index 5193a72305a2..b24711ddf504 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > > @@ -349,6 +349,14 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
> > >  			/* Fill in the last point, since no line starts here. */
> > >  			table[x2] = y2;
> > >  
> > > +			/*
> > > +			 * If we don't start at 0 yet we're increasing, assume
> > > +			 * the dts wanted to crop the low end of the range, so
> > > +			 * insert a 0 to provide a display off mode.
> > > +			 */
> > > +			if (table[0] > 0 && table[0] < table[num_levels - 1])
> > > +				table[0] = 0;
> > > +
> > >  			/*
> > >  			 * As we use interpolation lets remove current
> > >  			 * brightness levels table and replace for the
> > > -- 
> > > 2.27.0
> > _______________________________________________
> > dri-devel mailing list
> > dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
> 
> -- 
> Daniel Vetter
> Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> http://blog.ffwll.ch

Re: [PATCH 2/3] backlight: pwm_bl: Artificially add 0% during interpolation

[Daniel Vetter]

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 4:45 PM Daniel Thompson
<daniel.thompson@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 07, 2020 at 09:50:18AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 12:38:22PM +0100, Daniel Thompson wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:25:21PM -0700, Alexandru Stan wrote:
> > > > Some displays need the low end of the curve cropped in order to make
> > > > them happy. In that case we still want to have the 0% point, even though
> > > > anything between 0% and 5%(example) would be skipped.
> > >
> > > For backlights it is not defined that 0 means off and, to be honest, 0
> > > means off is actually rather weird for anything except transflexive
> > > or front lit reflective displays[1]. There is a problem on several
> > > systems that when the backlight slider is reduced to zero you can't
> > > see the screen properly to turn it back up. This patch looks like it
> > > would make that problem worse by hurting systems with will written
> > > device trees.
> > >
> > > There is some nasty legacy here: some backlight displays that are off
> > > at zero and that sucks because userspace doesn't know whether zero is
> > > off or lowest possible setting.
> > >
> > > Nevertheless perhaps a better way to handle this case is for 0 to map to
> > > 5% power and for the userspace to turn the backlight on/off as final
> > > step in an animated backlight fade out (and one again for a fade in).
> >
> > Afaik chromeos encodes "0 means off" somewhere in there stack. We've
> > gotten similar patches for the i915 backlight driver when we started
> > obeying the panel's lower limit in our pwm backlight driver thing that's
> > sometimes used instead of acpi.
>
> Out of interest... were they accepted?
>
> I did took a quick look at intel_panel.c and didn't see anything
> that appeared to be special casing zero but I thought I might double
> check.

I don't think so. Just figured I bring this up since it might explain
why this is coming back again from an @chromium.com address.
-Daniel

>
>
> Daniel.
>
>
> > There's also the problem that with fancy panels with protocol (dsi, edp,
> > ...) shutting of the backlight completely out of the proper power sequence
> > hangs the panel (for some panels at least), so providing a backlight off
> > that doesn't go through the drm modeset sequence isn't always possible.
> >
> > It's a bit a mess indeed :-/
> > -Daniel
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Daniel.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Alexandru Stan <amstan@chromium.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > >  drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c | 8 ++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > > > index 5193a72305a2..b24711ddf504 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > > > @@ -349,6 +349,14 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
> > > >                   /* Fill in the last point, since no line starts here. */
> > > >                   table[x2] = y2;
> > > >
> > > > +                 /*
> > > > +                  * If we don't start at 0 yet we're increasing, assume
> > > > +                  * the dts wanted to crop the low end of the range, so
> > > > +                  * insert a 0 to provide a display off mode.
> > > > +                  */
> > > > +                 if (table[0] > 0 && table[0] < table[num_levels - 1])
> > > > +                         table[0] = 0;
> > > > +
> > > >                   /*
> > > >                    * As we use interpolation lets remove current
> > > >                    * brightness levels table and replace for the
> > > > --
> > > > 2.27.0
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dri-devel mailing list
> > > dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Vetter
> > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> > http://blog.ffwll.ch
> _______________________________________________
> dri-devel mailing list
> dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel



-- 
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http://blog.ffwll.ch

Re: [PATCH 2/3] backlight: pwm_bl: Artificially add 0% during interpolation

[Alexandru M Stan]

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 4:38 AM Daniel Thompson
<daniel.thompson@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:25:21PM -0700, Alexandru Stan wrote:
> > Some displays need the low end of the curve cropped in order to make
> > them happy. In that case we still want to have the 0% point, even though
> > anything between 0% and 5%(example) would be skipped.
>
> For backlights it is not defined that 0 means off and, to be honest, 0
> means off is actually rather weird for anything except transflexive
> or front lit reflective displays[1]. There is a problem on several
> systems that when the backlight slider is reduced to zero you can't
> see the screen properly to turn it back up. This patch looks like it
> would make that problem worse by hurting systems with will written
> device trees.
>
> There is some nasty legacy here: some backlight displays that are off
> at zero and that sucks because userspace doesn't know whether zero is
> off or lowest possible setting.
>
> Nevertheless perhaps a better way to handle this case is for 0 to map to
> 5% power and for the userspace to turn the backlight on/off as final
> step in an animated backlight fade out (and one again for a fade in).

Hello

Apologies for my delay. Thanks for the responses!

Yeah, I felt pretty sketchy about this 0% patch as well. But I figured
it's better to send my suggestion and get corrected than lose the
fixed interpolation patch.

Turns out there's no reason to need 2/3. I was mistaken:
echo "4" > /sys/devices/platform/backlight/backlight/backlight/bl_power
seems to work just fine to turn the backlight off, nothing special
about my device (pwm comes from cros_ec).
Chrome OS user space already makes full use of that knob
(https://source.chromium.org/chromiumos/chromiumos/codesearch/+/master:src/platform2/power_manager/powerd/system/internal_backlight.cc;l=169)
I wanted to try X11 on the same device but I haven't gotten to it yet,
perhaps I'll post my results in the next cover letter.
So it seems I didn't have to worry about "not breaking userspace" on
the existing devices.

I'll respin this patch set: keep 1/3 and 3/3, remove 2/3, and
potentially add another one to update trogdor's dtsi (since that's
where I want this fixed linear interpolation to happen).

Thank you,
Alexandru Stan

Re: [PATCH 2/3] backlight: pwm_bl: Artificially add 0% during interpolation

[Daniel Vetter]

On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 05:03:37PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 4:45 PM Daniel Thompson
> <daniel.thompson@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 07, 2020 at 09:50:18AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 12:38:22PM +0100, Daniel Thompson wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:25:21PM -0700, Alexandru Stan wrote:
> > > > > Some displays need the low end of the curve cropped in order to make
> > > > > them happy. In that case we still want to have the 0% point, even though
> > > > > anything between 0% and 5%(example) would be skipped.
> > > >
> > > > For backlights it is not defined that 0 means off and, to be honest, 0
> > > > means off is actually rather weird for anything except transflexive
> > > > or front lit reflective displays[1]. There is a problem on several
> > > > systems that when the backlight slider is reduced to zero you can't
> > > > see the screen properly to turn it back up. This patch looks like it
> > > > would make that problem worse by hurting systems with will written
> > > > device trees.
> > > >
> > > > There is some nasty legacy here: some backlight displays that are off
> > > > at zero and that sucks because userspace doesn't know whether zero is
> > > > off or lowest possible setting.
> > > >
> > > > Nevertheless perhaps a better way to handle this case is for 0 to map to
> > > > 5% power and for the userspace to turn the backlight on/off as final
> > > > step in an animated backlight fade out (and one again for a fade in).
> > >
> > > Afaik chromeos encodes "0 means off" somewhere in there stack. We've
> > > gotten similar patches for the i915 backlight driver when we started
> > > obeying the panel's lower limit in our pwm backlight driver thing that's
> > > sometimes used instead of acpi.
> >
> > Out of interest... were they accepted?
> >
> > I did took a quick look at intel_panel.c and didn't see anything
> > that appeared to be special casing zero but I thought I might double
> > check.
> 
> I don't think so. Just figured I bring this up since it might explain
> why this is coming back again from an @chromium.com address.

Thanks to Alexandru pointing at the right code it's clear this got fix,
over 5 years ago:

https://source.chromium.org/chromiumos/_/chromium/chromiumos/platform2/+/6e83a6a8bb772ed8a2f939da1c7a152147c12789

	power: Write to bl_power when backlight reaches or leaves 0.
	
	Make InternalBacklight write FB_BLANK_UNBLANK to bl_power
	just before setting the internal backlight brightness to a
	nonzero value, and FB_BLANK_POWERDOWN to bl_power just
	before setting the brightness to 0.
	
	This is needed for hardware that interprets a brightness
	level of 0 as meaning "dim" rather than "off".
	
	BUG=chromium:396218
	TEST=added unit tests
	
	Change-Id: I914e333ab41db623564d5a67beac89f1a62bce9d
	Reviewed-on: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/311010
	Commit-Ready: Dan Erat <derat@chromium.org>
	Tested-by: Dan Erat <derat@chromium.org>
	Reviewed-by: Dan Erat <derat@chromium.org>

Cheers, Daniel

> > > There's also the problem that with fancy panels with protocol (dsi, edp,
> > > ...) shutting of the backlight completely out of the proper power sequence
> > > hangs the panel (for some panels at least), so providing a backlight off
> > > that doesn't go through the drm modeset sequence isn't always possible.
> > >
> > > It's a bit a mess indeed :-/
> > > -Daniel
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Daniel.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Alexandru Stan <amstan@chromium.org>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >
> > > > >  drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c | 8 ++++++++
> > > > >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > > > > index 5193a72305a2..b24711ddf504 100644
> > > > > --- a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c
> > > > > @@ -349,6 +349,14 @@ static int pwm_backlight_parse_dt(struct device *dev,
> > > > >                   /* Fill in the last point, since no line starts here. */
> > > > >                   table[x2] = y2;
> > > > >
> > > > > +                 /*
> > > > > +                  * If we don't start at 0 yet we're increasing, assume
> > > > > +                  * the dts wanted to crop the low end of the range, so
> > > > > +                  * insert a 0 to provide a display off mode.
> > > > > +                  */
> > > > > +                 if (table[0] > 0 && table[0] < table[num_levels - 1])
> > > > > +                         table[0] = 0;
> > > > > +
> > > > >                   /*
> > > > >                    * As we use interpolation lets remove current
> > > > >                    * brightness levels table and replace for the
> > > > > --
> > > > > 2.27.0
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > dri-devel mailing list
> > > > dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> > > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Vetter
> > > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> > > http://blog.ffwll.ch
> > _______________________________________________
> > dri-devel mailing list
> > dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Daniel Vetter
> Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> http://blog.ffwll.ch

-- 
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Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch