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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	John Hubbard <john.hubbard@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: set PG_dma_pinned on get_user_pages*()
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 08:52:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180702055251.GV3014@mtr-leonro.mtl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180628091743.khhta7nafuwstd3m@quack2.suse.cz>

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On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:17:43AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 27-06-18 19:42:01, John Hubbard wrote:
> > On 06/27/2018 10:02 AM, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Wed 27-06-18 08:57:18, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > >> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 02:42:55PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > >>> On Wed 27-06-18 13:59:27, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > >>>> On Wed 27-06-18 13:53:49, Jan Kara wrote:
> > >>>>> On Wed 27-06-18 13:32:21, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > >>>> [...]
> > >>>>>> Appart from that, do we really care about 32b here? Big DIO, IB users
> > >>>>>> seem to be 64b only AFAIU.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> IMO it is a bad habit to leave unpriviledged-user-triggerable oops in the
> > >>>>> kernel even for uncommon platforms...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Absolutely agreed! I didn't mean to keep the blow up for 32b. I just
> > >>>> wanted to say that we can stay with a simple solution for 32b. I thought
> > >>>> the g-u-p-longterm has plugged the most obvious breakage already. But
> > >>>> maybe I just misunderstood.
> > >>>
> > >>> Most yes, but if you try hard enough, you can still trigger the oops e.g.
> > >>> with appropriately set up direct IO when racing with writeback / reclaim.
> > >>
> > >> gup longterm is only different from normal gup if you have DAX and few
> > >> people do, which really means it doesn't help at all.. AFAIK??
> > >
> > > Right, what I wrote works only for DAX. For non-DAX situation g-u-p
> > > longterm does not currently help at all. Sorry for confusion.
> > >
> >
> > OK, I've got an early version of this up and running, reusing the page->lru
> > fields. I'll clean it up and do some heavier testing, and post as a PATCH v2.
>
> Cool.
>
> > One question though: I'm still vague on the best actions to take in the
> > following functions:
> >
> >     page_mkclean_one
> >     try_to_unmap_one
> >
> > At the moment, they are both just doing an evil little early-out:
> >
> > 	if (PageDmaPinned(page))
> > 		return false;
> >
> > ...but we talked about maybe waiting for the condition to clear, instead?
> > Thoughts?
>
> What needs to happen in page_mkclean() depends on the caller. Most of the
> callers really need to be sure the page is write-protected once
> page_mkclean() returns. Those are:
>
>   pagecache_isize_extended()
>   fb_deferred_io_work()
>   clear_page_dirty_for_io() if called for data-integrity writeback - which
>     is currently known only in its caller (e.g. write_cache_pages()) where
>     it can be determined as wbc->sync_mode == WB_SYNC_ALL. Getting this
>     information into page_mkclean() will require some plumbing and
>     clear_page_dirty_for_io() has some 50 callers but it's doable.
>
> clear_page_dirty_for_io() for cleaning writeback (wbc->sync_mode !=
> WB_SYNC_ALL) can just skip pinned pages and we probably need to do that as
> otherwise memory cleaning would get stuck on pinned pages until RDMA
> drivers release its pins.

Sorry for naive question, but won't it create too much dirty pages
so writeback will be called "non-stop" to rebalance watermarks without
ability to progress?

Thanks

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-02  5:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-17  1:25 [PATCH 0/2] mm: gup: don't unmap or drop filesystem buffers john.hubbard
2018-06-17  1:25 ` [PATCH 1/2] consolidate get_user_pages error handling john.hubbard
2018-06-17  1:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: set PG_dma_pinned on get_user_pages*() john.hubbard
2018-06-17 19:53   ` Dan Williams
2018-06-17 20:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-06-17 20:10       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-17 20:28         ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18  8:12           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-18 17:50             ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18 17:56               ` Dan Williams
2018-06-18 18:14                 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18 19:21                   ` Dan Williams
2018-06-18 19:31                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-06-18 20:04                       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-18 21:36                     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-19  8:29                       ` Jan Kara
2018-06-19  9:02                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-06-19 10:41                           ` Jan Kara
2018-06-19 18:11                             ` John Hubbard
2018-06-20  1:24                               ` Dan Williams
2018-06-20  1:34                                 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-20  1:57                                   ` Dan Williams
2018-06-20  2:03                                     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-20 12:08                               ` Jan Kara
2018-06-20 22:55                                 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-21 16:30                                   ` Jan Kara
2018-06-25 15:21                                     ` Jan Kara
2018-06-25 19:03                                       ` John Hubbard
2018-06-26  7:52                                         ` Jan Kara
2018-06-26  6:31                                       ` John Hubbard
2018-06-26 11:48                                         ` Jan Kara
2018-06-26 13:47                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-26 16:48                       ` Jan Kara
2018-06-27 11:32                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-27 11:53                           ` Jan Kara
2018-06-27 11:59                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-27 12:42                               ` Jan Kara
2018-06-27 14:57                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-06-27 17:02                                   ` Jan Kara
2018-06-28  2:42                                     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-28  9:17                                       ` Jan Kara
2018-07-02  5:52                                         ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2018-07-02  6:10                                           ` John Hubbard
2018-07-02  6:34                                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-07-02  6:41                                               ` John Hubbard
2018-07-02 10:36                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02  7:02                                             ` Jan Kara
2018-07-02 14:48                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02  6:58                                           ` Jan Kara
2018-06-18  8:11         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-19  6:15           ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-06-17 22:19     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18  7:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-18 17:44     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-17 21:54 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: gup: don't unmap or drop filesystem buffers Christopher Lameter
2018-06-17 22:23   ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18  8:10   ` Christoph Hellwig

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