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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com>,
	Jeff Kirsher <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, nhorman@redhat.com,
	sassmann@redhat.com, Fred Oh <fred.oh@linux.intel.com>,
	lee.jones@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [net-next v4 10/12] ASoC: SOF: Introduce descriptors for SOF client
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:31:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200630103141.GA5272@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200629225959.GF25301@ziepe.ca>

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On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 07:59:59PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 09:33:17PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 09:17:33AM +0200, Greg KH wrote:

> > > Ok, that's good to hear.  But platform devices should never be showing
> > > up as a child of a PCI device.  In the "near future" when we get the
> > > virtual bus code merged, we can convert any existing users like this to
> > > the new code.

> > What are we supposed to do with things like PCI attached FPGAs and ASICs
> > in that case?  They can have host visible devices with physical
> > resources like MMIO ranges and interrupts without those being split up
> > neatly as PCI subfunctions - the original use case for MFD was such
> > ASICs, there's a few PCI drivers in there now. 

> Greg has been pretty clear that MFD shouldn't have been used on top of
> PCI drivers.

The proposed bus lacks resource handling, an equivalent of
platform_get_resource() and friends for example, which would be needed
for use with physical devices.  Both that and the name suggest that it's
for virtual devices.

> In a sense virtual bus is pretty much MFD v2.

Copying in Lee since I'm not sure he's aware of this, it's quite a
recent thing...  MFD is a layer above AFAICT, it's not a bus but rather
a combination of helpers for registering subdevices and a place for
drivers for core functionality of devices which have multiple features.

The reason the MFDs use platform devices is that they end up having to
have all the features of platform devices - originally people were
making virtual buses for them but the code duplication is real so
everyone (including Greg) decided to just use what was there already.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-30 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-20  7:02 [net-next v4 00/12][pull request] 100GbE Intel Wired LAN Driver Updates 2020-05-19 Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-20  7:02 ` [net-next v4 01/12] Implementation of Virtual Bus Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-21 14:57   ` Parav Pandit
2020-05-21 17:43     ` gregkh
2020-05-21 20:10       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-20  7:02 ` [net-next v4 02/12] ice: Create and register virtual bus for RDMA Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-20  7:02 ` [net-next v4 03/12] ice: Complete RDMA peer registration Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-20  7:02 ` [net-next v4 04/12] ice: Support resource allocation requests Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-20  7:02 ` [net-next v4 05/12] ice: Enable event notifications Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-20  7:02 ` [net-next v4 06/12] ice: Allow reset operations Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-20  7:02 ` [net-next v4 07/12] ice: Pass through communications to VF Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-20  7:02 ` [net-next v4 08/12] i40e: Move client header location Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-20  7:02 ` [net-next v4 09/12] i40e: Register a virtbus device to provide RDMA Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-20  7:02 ` [net-next v4 10/12] ASoC: SOF: Introduce descriptors for SOF client Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-20  7:20   ` Greg KH
2020-05-20 12:54   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-20 12:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-21 21:11     ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-05-21 23:34       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-22 14:29         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-05-22 14:55           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-22 15:33             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-05-22 17:10               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-22 18:35                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-05-22 18:40                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-22 18:48                     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-05-22 19:44                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-22 21:05                         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-06-29 20:59               ` Mark Brown
2020-05-23  6:23           ` Greg KH
2020-05-23 19:41             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-05-24  6:35               ` Greg KH
2020-05-26 13:15                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-05-26 13:37                   ` Takashi Iwai
2020-05-27  7:17                     ` Greg KH
2020-05-27 14:05                       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-06-29 20:33                       ` Mark Brown
2020-06-29 22:59                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-06-29 23:13                           ` Kirsher, Jeffrey T
2020-06-30 10:31                           ` Mark Brown [this message]
2020-06-30 11:32                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-06-30 14:16                               ` Mark Brown
2020-06-30 17:24                               ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-06-30 17:27                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-01  9:50                                   ` Mark Brown
2020-07-01 23:32                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-02 11:15                                       ` Mark Brown
2020-07-02 12:11                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-02 12:20                                           ` Mark Brown
2020-07-01  6:59                                 ` Greg KH
2020-07-02 13:43                                   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-07-06 23:02                                     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07 14:16                                       ` Greg KH
2020-05-25 16:55               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-06-29 20:21             ` Mark Brown
2020-06-29 17:36   ` Mark Brown
2020-05-20  7:02 ` [net-next v4 11/12] ASoC: SOF: Create client driver for IPC test Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-20  7:22   ` Greg KH
2020-05-20 12:56   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-27 20:18     ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-05-28  0:12       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-28  1:40         ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-05-28 10:45           ` Greg KH
2020-06-29 20:37             ` Mark Brown
2020-05-20  7:02 ` [net-next v4 12/12] ASoC: SOF: ops: Add new op for client registration Jeff Kirsher
2020-05-20  7:23   ` Greg KH
2020-05-20  7:17 ` [net-next v4 00/12][pull request] 100GbE Intel Wired LAN Driver Updates 2020-05-19 Greg KH
2020-05-20  7:25   ` Kirsher, Jeffrey T
2020-05-20  9:08     ` Greg KH

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