From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: "Thomas Hellström (Intel)" <thomas_os@shipmail.org>
Cc: "Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Daniel Stone" <daniels@collabora.com>,
linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
"Intel Graphics Development" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
"Steve Pronovost" <spronovo@microsoft.com>,
"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
"Jason Ekstrand" <jason@jlekstrand.net>,
"Jesse Natalie" <jenatali@microsoft.com>,
"Felix Kuehling" <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>,
"Thomas Hellstrom" <thomas.hellstrom@intel.com>,
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"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Mika Kuoppala" <mika.kuoppala@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 1/2] dma-buf.rst: Document why indefinite fences are a bad idea
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:41:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200721074157.GB3278063@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93b673b7-bb48-96eb-dc2c-bd4f9304000e@shipmail.org>
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 01:15:17PM +0200, Thomas Hellström (Intel) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 7/9/20 2:33 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > Comes up every few years, gets somewhat tedious to discuss, let's
> > write this down once and for all.
> >
> > What I'm not sure about is whether the text should be more explicit in
> > flat out mandating the amdkfd eviction fences for long running compute
> > workloads or workloads where userspace fencing is allowed.
>
> Although (in my humble opinion) it might be possible to completely untangle
> kernel-introduced fences for resource management and dma-fences used for
> completion- and dependency tracking and lift a lot of restrictions for the
> dma-fences, including prohibiting infinite ones, I think this makes sense
> describing the current state.
Yeah I think a future patch needs to type up how we want to make that
happen (for some cross driver consistency) and what needs to be
considered. Some of the necessary parts are already there (with like the
preemption fences amdkfd has as an example), but I think some clear docs
on what's required from both hw, drivers and userspace would be really
good.
>
> Reviewed-by: Thomas Hellstrom <thomas.hellstrom@intel.com>
Thanks for taking a look, first 3 patches here with annotations and docs
merged to drm-misc-next. I'll ask Maarten/Dave whether another pull is ok
for 5.9 so that everyone can use this asap.
-Daniel
--
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-21 7:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-07 20:12 [PATCH 00/25] dma-fence annotations, round 3 Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 01/25] dma-fence: basic lockdep annotations Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08 14:57 ` Christian König
2020-07-08 15:12 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08 15:19 ` Alex Deucher
2020-07-08 15:37 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-14 11:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09 7:32 ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Stone
2020-07-09 7:52 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-13 16:26 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-13 16:39 ` Christian König
2020-07-13 20:31 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 02/25] dma-fence: prime " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09 8:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-10 12:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-10 12:48 ` Christian König
2020-07-10 12:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-10 13:01 ` Christian König
2020-07-10 13:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-10 14:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-10 14:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-10 20:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 03/25] dma-buf.rst: Document why idenfinite fences are a bad idea Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09 7:36 ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Stone
2020-07-09 8:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09 12:11 ` Daniel Stone
2020-07-09 12:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09 14:28 ` Christian König
2020-07-09 11:53 ` Christian König
2020-07-09 12:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] dma-buf.rst: Document why indefinite " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09 12:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] drm/virtio: Remove open-coded commit-tail function Daniel Vetter
2020-07-09 12:48 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-07-09 14:05 ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-07-14 9:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-08-19 12:43 ` Jiri Slaby
2020-08-19 12:47 ` Jiri Slaby
2020-08-19 13:24 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-08-20 6:32 ` Jiri Slaby
2020-08-21 7:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-07-10 12:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] dma-buf.rst: Document why indefinite fences are a bad idea Maarten Lankhorst
2020-07-14 17:46 ` Jason Ekstrand
2020-07-20 11:15 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-21 7:41 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2020-07-21 7:45 ` Christian König
2020-07-21 8:47 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-21 8:55 ` Christian König
2020-07-21 9:16 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-21 9:24 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-21 9:37 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-21 9:50 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-21 10:47 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-21 13:59 ` Christian König
2020-07-21 17:46 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-21 18:18 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-21 21:42 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-21 22:45 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-22 6:45 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-22 7:11 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-22 8:05 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-22 9:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-22 10:31 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-22 11:39 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-22 12:22 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-22 12:41 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-22 13:12 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-22 14:07 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-22 14:23 ` Christian König
2020-07-22 14:30 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2020-07-22 14:35 ` Christian König
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 04/25] drm/vkms: Annotate vblank timer Daniel Vetter
2020-07-12 22:27 ` Rodrigo Siqueira
2020-07-14 9:57 ` Melissa Wen
2020-07-14 9:59 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-14 14:55 ` Melissa Wen
2020-07-14 15:23 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 05/25] drm/vblank: Annotate with dma-fence signalling section Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 06/25] drm/amdgpu: add dma-fence annotations to atomic commit path Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 07/25] drm/komdea: Annotate dma-fence critical section in " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08 5:17 ` james qian wang (Arm Technology China)
2020-07-14 8:34 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 08/25] drm/malidp: " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-15 12:53 ` Liviu Dudau
2020-07-15 13:51 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 09/25] drm/atmel: Use drm_atomic_helper_commit Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:37 ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-07-07 21:31 ` [PATCH] " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-14 9:55 ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 10/25] drm/imx: Annotate dma-fence critical section in commit path Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 11/25] drm/omapdrm: " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 12/25] drm/rcar-du: " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 23:32 ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-14 8:39 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 13/25] drm/tegra: " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 14/25] drm/tidss: " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08 9:01 ` Jyri Sarha
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 15/25] drm/tilcdc: Use standard drm_atomic_helper_commit Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08 9:17 ` Jyri Sarha
2020-07-08 9:27 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08 9:44 ` [PATCH] " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08 10:21 ` Jyri Sarha
2020-07-08 14:20 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-10 11:16 ` Jyri Sarha
2020-07-14 8:32 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 16/25] drm/atomic-helper: Add dma-fence annotations Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 17/25] drm/scheduler: use dma-fence annotations in main thread Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 18/25] drm/amdgpu: use dma-fence annotations in cs_submit() Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 19/25] drm/amdgpu: s/GFP_KERNEL/GFP_ATOMIC in scheduler code Daniel Vetter
2020-07-14 10:49 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-14 11:40 ` Christian König
2020-07-14 14:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-15 9:17 ` Christian König
2020-07-15 11:53 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 20/25] drm/amdgpu: DC also loves to allocate stuff where it shouldn't Daniel Vetter
2020-07-14 11:12 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 21/25] drm/amdgpu/dc: Stop dma_resv_lock inversion in commit_tail Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 22/25] drm/scheduler: use dma-fence annotations in tdr work Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 23/25] drm/amdgpu: use dma-fence annotations for gpu reset code Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 24/25] Revert "drm/amdgpu: add fbdev suspend/resume on gpu reset" Daniel Vetter
2020-07-07 20:12 ` [PATCH 25/25] drm/amdgpu: gpu recovery does full modesets Daniel Vetter
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