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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Chuck Lever <chucklever@gmail.com>
Cc: Ka-Cheong Poon <ka-cheong.poon@oracle.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RDMA subsystem namespace related questions (was Re: Finding the namespace of a struct ib_device)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 12:34:06 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201009153406.GA5177@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7EC25CA9-27B5-4900-B49C-43D29ED06EB6@gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 11:27:44AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:

> Therefore I think the approach is going to be "one RDS listener per
> net namespace". The problem Ka-Cheong is trying to address is how to
> manage the destruction of a listener-namespace pair. The extra
> reference count on the cm_id is pinning the namespace so it cannot
> be destroyed.

I really don't think this idea of just loading a kernel module and it
immediately creates a network visibile listening socket in every
namespace is very good.

> Understood, but it doesn't seem like there is enough useful overlap
> between the NFS and RDS usage scenarios. With NFS, I would expect
> an explicit listener shutdown from userland prior to namespace
> destruction.

Yes, because namespaces are fundamentally supposed to be anchored in
the processes inside the namespace.

Having the kernel jump in and start opening holes as soon as a
namespace is created is just wrong.

At a bare minimum the listener should not exist until something in the
namespace is willing to work with RDS.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-09 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-03 14:02 Finding the namespace of a struct ib_device Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-09-03 17:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04  4:01   ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-09-04 11:32     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 14:02       ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-09-06  7:44         ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-07  3:33           ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-09-07  7:18             ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-07  8:24               ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-09-07  9:04                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-07  9:28                   ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-09-07 10:22                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-07 13:48                       ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-09-29 16:57                         ` RDMA subsystem namespace related questions (was Re: Finding the namespace of a struct ib_device) Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-09-29 17:40                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-30 10:32                             ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-10-02 14:04                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 10:27                                 ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-10-05 13:16                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 13:57                                     ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-10-05 14:25                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 15:02                                         ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-10-05 15:45                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06  9:36                                             ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-10-06 12:46                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07  8:38                                                 ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-10-07 11:16                                                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-10-08 10:22                                                     ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-10-08 10:36                                                       ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-10-08 11:08                                                         ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-10-08 16:08                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-08 16:21                                                             ` Chuck Lever
2020-10-08 16:46                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-09  4:49                                                             ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-10-09 14:39                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-09 14:48                                                                 ` Chuck Lever
2020-10-09 14:57                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-09 15:00                                                                     ` Chuck Lever
2020-10-09 15:07                                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-09 15:27                                                                         ` Chuck Lever
2020-10-09 15:34                                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-10-09 15:52                                                                             ` Chuck Lever
2020-10-12  8:20                                                                             ` Ka-Cheong Poon
2020-10-16 18:54                                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-16 20:49                                                                                 ` Chuck Lever
2020-10-19 18:31                                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 12:28                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-08 10:49                                                     ` Ka-Cheong Poon

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