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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Saleem, Shiraz" <shiraz.saleem@intel.com>
Cc: "dledford@redhat.com" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"kuba@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ertman, David M" <david.m.ertman@intel.com>,
	"Nguyen, Anthony L" <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>,
	"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Hefty, Sean" <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	"Lacombe, John S" <john.s.lacombe@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/23] iidc: Introduce iidc.h
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 13:12:14 -0300
Message-ID: <20210412161214.GA1115060@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2339b8bb35b74aabbb708fcd1a6ab40f@intel.com>

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 02:50:43PM +0000, Saleem, Shiraz wrote:

> Because it is an unnecessary thing to force a user to build/load drivers for
> which they don't have the HW for? 

Happens automatically in all distros, so I don't agree with this.

> The problem gets compounded if we have to do it for all future HW
> Intel PCI drivers, i.e. depends on ICE && ....

Then someday build a proper pluggable abstraction and put all your
ethernet drivers under it. 

Today you haven't done that and all we have a set of ops that only
work with one eth driver and a totally different set of functions that
only work with a different driver.

It is all just dead code until it gets finished and process is to not
merge dead code.

> There is a near-term Intel ethernet VF driver which will use IIDC to
> provide RDMA in the VF, and implement some of these .ops
> callbacks. There is also intent to move i40e to IIDC.

"near-term" We are now on year three of Intel talking about this
driver!

Get the bulk of the thing merged and deal with the rest in followup
patches.

> But in a unified irdma driver model connecting to multiple PCI gen
> drivers, I do think it serves a reason.

It is fine as a high level idea, but the implementation has to meet
kernel standards.

Jason

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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-06 21:01 [PATCH v4 00/23] Add Intel Ethernet Protocol Driver for RDMA (irdma) Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 01/23] iidc: Introduce iidc.h Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-07 15:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-07 20:58     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-04-07 22:43       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-08  7:14         ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-09  1:38           ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-04-11 11:48             ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-12 14:50         ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-04-12 16:12           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-04-15 17:36             ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-04-07 17:35   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-12 14:51     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 02/23] ice: Initialize RDMA support Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 03/23] ice: Implement iidc operations Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 04/23] ice: Register auxiliary device to provide RDMA Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 05/23] ice: Add devlink params support Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-07 14:57   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-07 20:58     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-04-07 22:46       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-12 14:50         ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-04-12 19:07           ` Parav Pandit
2021-04-13  4:03             ` Parav Pandit
2021-04-13 14:40             ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-04-13 17:36               ` Parav Pandit
2021-04-14  0:21                 ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-04-14  5:27                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-04-18 11:51                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 06/23] i40e: Prep i40e header for aux bus conversion Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 07/23] i40e: Register auxiliary devices to provide RDMA Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 08/23] RDMA/irdma: Register auxiliary driver and implement private channel OPs Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 09/23] RDMA/irdma: Implement device initialization definitions Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 10/23] RDMA/irdma: Implement HW Admin Queue OPs Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 11/23] RDMA/irdma: Add HMC backing store setup functions Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 12/23] RDMA/irdma: Add privileged UDA queue implementation Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 13/23] RDMA/irdma: Add QoS definitions Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 14/23] RDMA/irdma: Add connection manager Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 15/23] RDMA/irdma: Add PBLE resource manager Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 16/23] RDMA/irdma: Implement device supported verb APIs Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 17/23] RDMA/irdma: Add RoCEv2 UD OP support Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 18/23] RDMA/irdma: Add user/kernel shared libraries Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 19/23] RDMA/irdma: Add miscellaneous utility definitions Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 20/23] RDMA/irdma: Add dynamic tracing for CM Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 21/23] RDMA/irdma: Add ABI definitions Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 22/23] RDMA/irdma: Add irdma Kconfig/Makefile and remove i40iw Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 23/23] RDMA/irdma: Update MAINTAINERS file Shiraz Saleem
2021-04-06 21:05 ` [PATCH v4 00/23] Add Intel Ethernet Protocol Driver for RDMA (irdma) Saleem, Shiraz
2021-04-06 23:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-06 23:30   ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-04-07  0:18     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-04-07 11:31     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-07 15:06       ` Saleem, Shiraz

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