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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Cheng Xu <chengyou@linux.alibaba.com>,
	BMT@zurich.ibm.com, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>
Cc: dledford@redhat.com, leon@kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	KaiShen@linux.alibaba.com, tonylu@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-next v7 10/12] RDMA/erdma: Add the erdma module
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 13:31:42 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220518163142.GR1343366@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ed54cd-7893-ea26-6bf0-780e12ca2a3e@linux.alibaba.com>

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 12:24:22AM +0800, Cheng Xu wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/18/22 10:46 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 04:30:33PM +0800, Cheng Xu wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 5/10/22 9:17 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 03:17:45PM +0800, Cheng Xu wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > +static struct rdma_link_ops erdma_link_ops = {
> > > > > +	.type = "erdma",
> > > > > +	.newlink = erdma_newlink,
> > > > > +};
> > > > 
> > > > Why is there still a newlink?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello, Jason,
> > > 
> > > About this issue, I have another idea, more simple and reasonable.
> > > 
> > > Maybe erdma driver doesn't need to link to a net device in kernel. In
> > > the core code, the ib_device_get_netdev has several use cases:
> > > 
> > >    1). query port info in netlink
> > >    2). get eth speed for IB (ib_get_eth_speed)
> > >    3). enumerate all RoCE ports (ib_enum_roce_netdev)
> > >    4). iw_query_port
> > > 
> > > The cases related to erdma is 4). But we change it in our patch 02/12.
> > > So, it seems all right that we do not link erdma to a net device.
> > > 
> > > * I also test this solution, it works for both perftest and NoF. *
> > > 
> > > Another issue is how to get the port state and attributes without
> > > net device. For this, erdma can get it from HW directly.
> > > 
> > > So, I think this may be the final solution. (BTW, I have gone over
> > > the rdma drivers, EFA does in this way, it also has two separated
> > > devices for net and rdma. It inspired me).
> > 
> > I'm not sure this works for an iWarp device - various things expect to
> > know the netdevice to know how to relate IP addresses to the iWarp
> > stuff - but then I don't really know iWarp.
> 
> As far as I know, iWarp device only has one GID entry which generated
> from MAC address.
> 
> For iWarp, The CM part in core code resolves address, finds
> route with the help of kernel's net subsystem, and then obtains the correct
> ibdev by GID matching. The GID matching in iWarp is indeed MAC address
> matching.
> 
> In another words, for iWarp devices, the core code doesn't handle IP
> addressing related stuff directly, it is finished by calling net APIs.
> The netdev set by ib_device_set_netdev does not used in iWarp's CM
> process.
> 
> The binded netdev in iWarp devices, mainly have two purposes:
>   1). generated GID0, using the netdev's mac address.
>   2). get the port state and attributes.
> 
> For 1), erdma device binded to net device also by mac address, which can
> be obtained from our PCIe bar registers.
> For 2), erdma can also get the information, and may be more accurately.
> For example, erdma can have different MTU with virtio-net in our cloud.
> 
> For RoCEv2, I know that it has many GIDs, some of them are generated
> from IP addresses, and handing IP addressing in core code.

Bernard, Tom what do you think? 

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-18 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-21  7:17 [PATCH for-next v7 00/12] Elastic RDMA Adapter (ERDMA) driver Cheng Xu
2022-04-21  7:17 ` [PATCH for-next v7 01/12] RDMA: Add ERDMA to rdma_driver_id definition Cheng Xu
2022-04-21  7:17 ` [PATCH for-next v7 02/12] RDMA/core: Allow calling query_port when netdev isn't attached in iWarp Cheng Xu
2022-04-21  7:17 ` [PATCH for-next v7 03/12] RDMA/erdma: Add the hardware related definitions Cheng Xu
2022-04-21  7:17 ` [PATCH for-next v7 04/12] RDMA/erdma: Add main include file Cheng Xu
2022-04-21  7:17 ` [PATCH for-next v7 05/12] RDMA/erdma: Add cmdq implementation Cheng Xu
2022-04-21  7:17 ` [PATCH for-next v7 06/12] RDMA/erdma: Add event queue implementation Cheng Xu
2022-04-21  7:17 ` [PATCH for-next v7 07/12] RDMA/erdma: Add verbs header file Cheng Xu
2022-04-21  7:17 ` [PATCH for-next v7 08/12] RDMA/erdma: Add verbs implementation Cheng Xu
2022-04-21  7:17 ` [PATCH for-next v7 09/12] RDMA/erdma: Add connection management (CM) support Cheng Xu
2022-04-21  7:17 ` [PATCH for-next v7 10/12] RDMA/erdma: Add the erdma module Cheng Xu
2022-05-10 13:17   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-16  3:15     ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-16 11:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-16 12:37         ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-16 12:40         ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-16 13:59           ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-16 14:07             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-16 15:14               ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-16 17:31                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-17  1:53                   ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-18  8:30     ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-18 14:46       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-18 16:24         ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-18 16:31           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-05-19 16:20             ` Bernard Metzler
2022-05-19 18:51               ` Tom Talpey
2022-05-20  7:03               ` Cheng Xu
2022-04-21  7:17 ` [PATCH for-next v7 11/12] RDMA/erdma: Add the ABI definitions Cheng Xu
2022-04-21  7:17 ` [PATCH for-next v7 12/12] RDMA/erdma: Add driver to kernel build environment Cheng Xu
2022-05-10 13:18   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-16  3:40     ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-16  7:11       ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-16 10:07         ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-16 14:13       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-16 14:41         ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-10 12:50 ` [PATCH for-next v7 00/12] Elastic RDMA Adapter (ERDMA) driver Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-16  2:30   ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-16 14:13     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-20 15:13 Re: [PATCH for-next v7 10/12] RDMA/erdma: Add the erdma module Bernard Metzler
2022-05-23  1:39 ` Cheng Xu
2022-05-23 13:25   ` Tom Talpey
2022-05-24  3:09     ` Cheng Xu

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