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From: Max Gurtovoy <maxg@mellanox.com>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@mellanox.com>
Cc: sagi@grimberg.me, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, jgg@nvidia.com,
	jgg@mellanox.com, dledford@redhat.com, oren@mellanox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] IB/isert: use unlikely macro in the fast path
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 13:56:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3deecfcd-b17c-1fe8-88e0-ad45b4008f57@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200805163738.GM4432@unreal>


On 8/5/2020 7:37 PM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 07:28:50PM +0300, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>> On 8/5/2020 7:06 PM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 06:14:16PM +0300, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>>>> On 8/5/2020 4:16 PM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 03:12:30PM +0300, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>>>>>> Add performance optimization that might slightly improve small IO sizes
>>>>>> benchmarks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Max Gurtovoy <maxg@mellanox.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>     drivers/infiniband/ulp/isert/ib_isert.c | 4 ++--
>>>>>>     1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>> I find the expectation from "unlikely/likely" keywords to be overrated.
>>>>>
>>>>> When we introduced dissagregate post send verbs in rdma-core, we
>>>>> benchmarked likely/unlikely and didn't find any significant difference
>>>>> for code with and without such keywords.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>> Leon,
>>>>
>>>> We are using these small optimizations in all our ULPs and we saw benefit in
>>>> large scale and high loads (we did the same in NVMf/RDMA).
>>>>
>>>> These kind of optimizations might not be seen immediately but are
>>>> accumulated.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why do you compare user-space benchmarks to storage drivers.
>>> Why not? It produces same asm code and both have same performance
>>> characteristic.
>>>
>>>> Can you please review the code ?
>>> There is nothing to review here, the patch is straightforward, I just
>>> don't believe in it.
>> Its ok.
>>
>> Just ignore it if you don't want to review it.
> OK, just because you asked.
>
> I reviewed this patch and didn't find any justification for performance
> claim, can you please provide us numbers before/after so we will be able
> to decide based on reliable data? It will help us to review our drivers
> and improve them even more.

As I said, these are incremental optimizations that probably won't be 
seen immediately with 1 or 2 changes. But accumulated small 
optimizations can reach to 3%-4%.

If you don't believe in this patch - ignore it and review others. I'm 
sure you have a lot. Let other maintainers review it.

You're also welcomed to remove the likely/unlikely macros from all Linux 
kernel and let's see what comments will it get from other maintainers.

>> The maintainers of iser target will review and decide if they believe in it
>> or not.
> Sure, I don't care who will provide numbers.

I'm not talking about providing numbers.

>
> Thanks
>
>>
>>>> Sagi,
>>>>
>>>> Can you send your comments as well ?
>>>>
>>>>

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-06 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-05 12:12 [PATCH 1/2] IB/isert: use unlikely macro in the fast path Max Gurtovoy
2020-08-05 12:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] IB/isert: remove duplicated error prints Max Gurtovoy
2020-08-06 20:12   ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-08-18 18:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-05 13:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] IB/isert: use unlikely macro in the fast path Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-05 15:14   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-08-05 16:06     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-05 16:28       ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-08-05 16:37         ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-06 10:56           ` Max Gurtovoy [this message]
2020-08-06 19:51           ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-08-07 16:09             ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-07 16:33               ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-08-06 19:43 ` Sagi Grimberg

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