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From: Michal Kalderon <mkalderon@marvell.com>
To: Krishnamraju Eraparaju <krishna2@chelsio.com>,
	Bernard Metzler <BMT@zurich.ibm.com>,
	"faisal.latif@intel.com" <faisal.latif@intel.com>,
	"shiraz.saleem@intel.com" <shiraz.saleem@intel.com>,
	Ariel Elior <aelior@marvell.com>
Cc: "dledford@redhat.com" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"jgg@ziepe.ca" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"bharat@chelsio.com" <bharat@chelsio.com>,
	"nirranjan@chelsio.com" <nirranjan@chelsio.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [RFC PATCH] RDMA/siw: Experimental e2e negotiation of GSO usage.
Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 07:03:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <MN2PR18MB3182D69EF3FA984146EBA256A18D0@MN2PR18MB3182.namprd18.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200527160657.GA20672@chelsio.com>

> From: linux-rdma-owner@vger.kernel.org <linux-rdma-
> owner@vger.kernel.org> On Behalf Of Krishnamraju Eraparaju
> 
> 
> > Before we move ahead with that story in any direction, I would really
> > really appreciate to hear what other iWarp vendors have to say.
> 
> Ok Bernard, will wait for other iWARP vendors to answer you questions.
Hi Bernard, Krishna, 

Currently our adapter supports only FPDU length < MTU, we do support Jumbo frames.
We could add support for this in the future, enabling any FPDU size, but this would be a SW based
Solution, not sure it will give us a performance boost. 

We think changing the wire protocol requires standardization. 
The port mapper seems like a better solution for OS specific.

Thanks,
Michal

> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Krishna.
> On Tuesday, May 05/26/20, 2020 at 13:57:11 +0000, Bernard Metzler wrote:
> >
> > -----"Krishnamraju Eraparaju" <krishna2@chelsio.com> wrote: -----
> >
> > >To: "Bernard Metzler" <BMT@zurich.ibm.com>
> > >From: "Krishnamraju Eraparaju" <krishna2@chelsio.com>
> > >Date: 05/15/2020 03:58PM
> > >Cc: faisal.latif@intel.com, shiraz.saleem@intel.com,
> > >mkalderon@marvell.com, aelior@marvell.com, dledford@redhat.com,
> > >jgg@ziepe.ca, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, bharat@chelsio.com,
> > >nirranjan@chelsio.com
> > >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: [RFC PATCH] RDMA/siw:
> > >Experimental e2e negotiation of GSO usage.
> > >
> > >Here is the rough prototype of iwpmd approach(only kernel part).
> > >Please take a look.
> >
> >
> > This indeed looks like a possible solution, which would not affect the
> > wire protocol.
> >
> > Before we move ahead with that story in any direction, I would really
> > really appreciate to hear what other iWarp vendors have to say.
> >
> > 0) would other vendors care about better performance
> >    in a mixed hardware/software iwarp setting?
> >
> > 1) what are the capabilities of other adapters in that
> >    respect, e.g. what is the maximum FPDU length it
> >    can process?
> >
> > 2) would other adapters be able to send larger FPDUs
> >    than MTU size?
> >
> > 3) what would be the preferred solution - using spare
> >    MPA protocol bits to signal capabilities or
> >    extending the proprietary iwarp port mapper with that
> >    functionality?
> >
> > Thanks very much!
> > Bernard.
> >
> >
> >
> > >diff --git a/drivers/infiniband/core/iwcm.c
> > >b/drivers/infiniband/core/iwcm.c index ade71823370f..ffe8d4dce45e
> > >100644
> > >--- a/drivers/infiniband/core/iwcm.c
> > >+++ b/drivers/infiniband/core/iwcm.c
> > >@@ -530,6 +530,12 @@ static int iw_cm_map(struct iw_cm_id *cm_id,
> > >bool
> > >active)
> > >        pm_msg.rem_addr = cm_id->remote_addr;
> > >        pm_msg.flags = (cm_id->device->iw_driver_flags &
> > >IW_F_NO_PORT_MAP) ?
> > >                       IWPM_FLAGS_NO_PORT_MAP : 0;
> > >+       ret = ib_query_qp(qp, &qp_attr, 0, &qp_init_attr);
> > >+        if (ret)
> > >+                return ret;
> > >+       else
> > >+               pm_msg.loc_fpdu_maxlen = qp_attr.loc_fpdu_maxlen;
> > >+
> > >        if (active)
> > >                status = iwpm_add_and_query_mapping(&pm_msg,
> > >                                                    RDMA_NL_IWCM); @@
> > >-544,6 +550,14 @@ static int iw_cm_map(struct iw_cm_id *cm_id, bool
> > >active)
> > >                                             &cm_id->remote_addr,
> > >                                             &cm_id->m_remote_addr);
> > >                }
> > >+
> > >+               if (pm_msg.rem_fpdu_maxlen) {
> > >+                       struct ib_qp_attr qp_attr = {0};
> > >+
> > >+                       qp_attr.rem_fpdu_maxlen =
> > >pm_msg.rem_fpdu_maxlen;
> > >+                       ib_modify_qp(qp, &qp_attr,
> > >IB_QP_FPDU_MAXLEN);
> > >+               }
> > >+
> > >        }
> > >
> > >        return iwpm_create_mapinfo(&cm_id->local_addr,
> > >diff --git a/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw.h
> > >b/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw.h
> > >index dba4535494ab..2c717f274dbf 100644
> > >--- a/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw.h
> > >+++ b/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw.h
> > >@@ -279,6 +279,7 @@ struct siw_qp_attrs {
> > >        enum siw_qp_flags flags;
> > >
> > >        struct socket *sk;
> > >+       u16 rem_fpdu_maxlen; /* max len of FPDU that remote node can
> > >accept */
> > > };
> > >
> > > enum siw_tx_ctx {
> > >@@ -415,7 +416,6 @@ struct siw_iwarp_tx {
> > >        u8 orq_fence : 1; /* ORQ full or Send fenced */
> > >        u8 in_syscall : 1; /* TX out of user context */
> > >        u8 zcopy_tx : 1; /* Use TCP_SENDPAGE if possible */
> > >-       u8 gso_seg_limit; /* Maximum segments for GSO, 0 = unbound */
> > >
> > >        u16 fpdu_len; /* len of FPDU to tx */
> > >        unsigned int tcp_seglen; /* remaining tcp seg space */ @@
> > >-505,7 +505,6 @@ struct iwarp_msg_info {
> > >
> > > /* Global siw parameters. Currently set in siw_main.c */  extern
> > >const bool zcopy_tx; -extern const bool try_gso;  extern const bool
> > >loopback_enabled;  extern const bool mpa_crc_required;  extern const
> > >bool mpa_crc_strict; diff --git a/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_cm.c
> > >b/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_cm.c
> > >index 8c1931a57f4a..c240c430542d 100644
> > >--- a/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_cm.c
> > >+++ b/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_cm.c
> > >@@ -750,10 +750,6 @@ static int siw_proc_mpareply(struct siw_cep
> > >*cep)
> > >
> > >                return -ECONNRESET;
> > >        }
> > >-       if (try_gso && rep->params.bits & MPA_RR_FLAG_GSO_EXP) {
> > >-               siw_dbg_cep(cep, "peer allows GSO on TX\n");
> > >-               qp->tx_ctx.gso_seg_limit = 0;
> > >-       }
> > >        if ((rep->params.bits & MPA_RR_FLAG_MARKERS) ||
> > >            (mpa_crc_required && !(rep->params.bits &
> > >MPA_RR_FLAG_CRC))
> > >||
> > >            (mpa_crc_strict && !mpa_crc_required && @@ -1373,6
> > >+1369,7 @@ int siw_connect(struct iw_cm_id *id, struct
> > >iw_cm_conn_param *params)
> > >                rv = -EINVAL;
> > >                goto error;
> > >        }
> > >+
> > >        if (v4)
> > >                siw_dbg_qp(qp,
> > >                           "pd_len %d, laddr %pI4 %d, raddr %pI4
> > >%d\n", @@ -1469,9 +1466,6 @@ int siw_connect(struct iw_cm_id *id,
> > >struct iw_cm_conn_param *params)
> > >        }
> > >        __mpa_rr_set_revision(&cep->mpa.hdr.params.bits, version);
> > >
> > >-       if (try_gso)
> > >-               cep->mpa.hdr.params.bits |= MPA_RR_FLAG_GSO_EXP;
> > >-
> > >        if (mpa_crc_required)
> > >                cep->mpa.hdr.params.bits |= MPA_RR_FLAG_CRC;
> > >
> > >@@ -1594,6 +1588,7 @@ int siw_accept(struct iw_cm_id *id, struct
> > >iw_cm_conn_param *params)
> > >
> > >                return -EINVAL;
> > >        }
> > >+
> > >        down_write(&qp->state_lock);
> > >        if (qp->attrs.state > SIW_QP_STATE_RTR) {
> > >                rv = -EINVAL;
> > >@@ -1602,10 +1597,6 @@ int siw_accept(struct iw_cm_id *id, struct
> > >iw_cm_conn_param *params)
> > >        }
> > >        siw_dbg_cep(cep, "[QP %d]\n", params->qpn);
> > >
> > >-       if (try_gso && cep->mpa.hdr.params.bits &
> > >MPA_RR_FLAG_GSO_EXP) {
> > >-               siw_dbg_cep(cep, "peer allows GSO on TX\n");
> > >-               qp->tx_ctx.gso_seg_limit = 0;
> > >-       }
> > >        if (params->ord > sdev->attrs.max_ord ||
> > >            params->ird > sdev->attrs.max_ird) {
> > >                siw_dbg_cep(
> > >diff --git a/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_main.c
> > >b/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_main.c
> > >index 05a92f997f60..28c256e52454 100644
> > >--- a/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_main.c
> > >+++ b/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_main.c
> > >@@ -31,12 +31,6 @@ MODULE_LICENSE("Dual BSD/GPL");
> > > /* transmit from user buffer, if possible */  const bool zcopy_tx =
> > >true;
> > >
> > >-/* Restrict usage of GSO, if hardware peer iwarp is unable to
> > >process
> > >- * large packets. try_gso = true lets siw try to use local GSO,
> > >- * if peer agrees.  Not using GSO severly limits siw maximum tx
> > >  bandwidth.
> > >- */
> > >-const bool try_gso;
> > >-
> > > /* Attach siw also with loopback devices */  const bool
> > >loopback_enabled = true;
> > >
> > >diff --git a/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_qp_tx.c
> > >b/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_qp_tx.c
> > >index 5d97bba0ce6d..2a9fa4efab60 100644
> > >--- a/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_qp_tx.c
> > >+++ b/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_qp_tx.c
> > >@@ -661,14 +661,19 @@ static void siw_update_tcpseg(struct
> > >siw_iwarp_tx *c_tx,
> > >                                     struct socket *s)  {
> > >        struct tcp_sock *tp = tcp_sk(s->sk);
> > >+       struct siw_qp *qp =  container_of(c_tx, struct siw_qp,
> > >tx_ctx);
> > >
> > >-       if (tp->gso_segs) {
> > >-               if (c_tx->gso_seg_limit == 0)
> > >-                       c_tx->tcp_seglen = tp->mss_cache *
> > >tp->gso_segs;
> > >-               else
> > >+       if (tp->gso_segs && qp->attrs.rem_fpdu_maxlen) {
> > >+               if(tp->mss_cache >  qp->attrs.rem_fpdu_maxlen) {
> > >+                       c_tx->tcp_seglen = qp->attrs.rem_fpdu_maxlen;
> > >+               } else {
> > >+                       u8 gso_seg_limit;
> > >+                       gso_seg_limit = qp->attrs.rem_fpdu_maxlen /
> > >+                                               tp->mss_cache;
> > >                        c_tx->tcp_seglen =
> > >                                tp->mss_cache *
> > >-                               min_t(u16, c_tx->gso_seg_limit,
> > >                                tp->gso_segs);
> > >+                               min_t(u16, gso_seg_limit,
> > >tp->gso_segs);
> > >+               }
> > >        } else {
> > >                c_tx->tcp_seglen = tp->mss_cache;
> > >        }
> > >diff --git a/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_verbs.c
> > >b/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_verbs.c
> > >index b18a677832e1..c5f40d3454f3 100644
> > >--- a/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_verbs.c
> > >+++ b/drivers/infiniband/sw/siw/siw_verbs.c
> > >@@ -444,8 +444,7 @@ struct ib_qp *siw_create_qp(struct ib_pd *pd,
> > >        qp->attrs.sq_max_sges = attrs->cap.max_send_sge;
> > >        qp->attrs.rq_max_sges = attrs->cap.max_recv_sge;
> > >
> > >-       /* Make those two tunables fixed for now. */
> > >-       qp->tx_ctx.gso_seg_limit = 1;
> > >+       /* Make this tunable fixed for now. */
> > >        qp->tx_ctx.zcopy_tx = zcopy_tx;
> > >
> > >        qp->attrs.state = SIW_QP_STATE_IDLE; @@ -537,6 +536,7 @@ int
> > >siw_query_qp(struct ib_qp *base_qp, struct ib_qp_attr *qp_attr,
> > >        qp_attr->cap.max_send_sge = qp->attrs.sq_max_sges;
> > >        qp_attr->cap.max_recv_wr = qp->attrs.rq_size;
> > >        qp_attr->cap.max_recv_sge = qp->attrs.rq_max_sges;
> > >+       qp_attr->cap.loc_fpdu_maxlen =  SZ_64K - 1;
> > >        qp_attr->path_mtu = ib_mtu_int_to_enum(sdev->netdev->mtu);
> > >        qp_attr->max_rd_atomic = qp->attrs.irq_size;
> > >        qp_attr->max_dest_rd_atomic = qp->attrs.orq_size; @@ -550,6
> > >+550,7 @@ int siw_query_qp(struct ib_qp *base_qp, struct ib_qp_attr
> > >*qp_attr,
> > >        qp_init_attr->recv_cq = base_qp->recv_cq;
> > >        qp_init_attr->srq = base_qp->srq;
> > >
> > >+       qp_init_attr->cap = qp_attr->cap;
> > >        qp_init_attr->cap = qp_attr->cap;
> > >
> > >        return 0;
> > >@@ -589,6 +590,8 @@ int siw_verbs_modify_qp(struct ib_qp *base_qp,
> > >struct ib_qp_attr *attr,
> > >
> > >                siw_attr_mask |= SIW_QP_ATTR_STATE;
> > >        }
> > >+       if (attr_mask & IB_QP_FPDU_MAXLEN)
> > >+                qp->attrs.rem_fpdu_maxlen = attr->rem_fpdu_maxlen;
> > >        if (!siw_attr_mask)
> > >                goto out;
> > >
> > >diff --git a/include/rdma/ib_verbs.h b/include/rdma/ib_verbs.h index
> > >e7e733add99f..5bc3e3b9ea61 100644
> > >--- a/include/rdma/ib_verbs.h
> > >+++ b/include/rdma/ib_verbs.h
> > >@@ -1054,6 +1054,8 @@ struct ib_qp_cap {
> > >         * and MRs based on this.
> > >         */
> > >        u32     max_rdma_ctxs;
> > >+       /* Maximum length of FPDU that the device at local node could
> > >accept */
> > >+       u16     loc_fpdu_maxlen;
> > > };
> > >
> > > enum ib_sig_type {
> > >@@ -1210,6 +1212,7 @@ enum ib_qp_attr_mask {
> > >        IB_QP_RESERVED3                 = (1<<23),
> > >        IB_QP_RESERVED4                 = (1<<24),
> > >        IB_QP_RATE_LIMIT                = (1<<25),
> > >+       IB_QP_FPDU_MAXLEN               = (1<<26),
> > > };
> > >
> > > enum ib_qp_state {
> > >@@ -1260,6 +1263,7 @@ struct ib_qp_attr {
> > >        u8                      alt_port_num;
> > >        u8                      alt_timeout;
> > >        u32                     rate_limit;
> > >+       u16                     rem_fpdu_maxlen; /* remote node's max
> > >len cap */
> > > };
> > >
> > > enum ib_wr_opcode {
> > >diff --git a/include/rdma/iw_portmap.h b/include/rdma/iw_portmap.h
> > >index c89535047c42..af1bc798f709 100644
> > >--- a/include/rdma/iw_portmap.h
> > >+++ b/include/rdma/iw_portmap.h
> > >@@ -61,6 +61,8 @@ struct iwpm_sa_data {
> > >        struct sockaddr_storage mapped_loc_addr;
> > >        struct sockaddr_storage rem_addr;
> > >        struct sockaddr_storage mapped_rem_addr;
> > >+       u16 loc_fpdu_maxlen;
> > >+       u16 rem_fpdu_maxlen;
> > >        u32 flags;
> > > };
> > >
> > >On Friday, May 05/15/20, 2020 at 19:20:40 +0530, Krishnamraju
> > >Eraparaju wrote:
> > >> On Thursday, May 05/14/20, 2020 at 13:07:33 +0000, Bernard Metzler
> > >wrote:
> > >> > -----"Krishnamraju Eraparaju" <krishna2@chelsio.com> wrote: -----
> > >> >
> > >> > >To: "Bernard Metzler" <BMT@zurich.ibm.com>
> > >> > >From: "Krishnamraju Eraparaju" <krishna2@chelsio.com>
> > >> > >Date: 05/14/2020 01:17PM
> > >> > >Cc: faisal.latif@intel.com, shiraz.saleem@intel.com,
> > >> > >mkalderon@marvell.com, aelior@marvell.com,
> dledford@redhat.com,
> > >> > >jgg@ziepe.ca, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, bharat@chelsio.com,
> > >> > >nirranjan@chelsio.com
> > >> > >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: [RFC PATCH] RDMA/siw:
> > >Experimental
> > >> > >e2e negotiation of GSO usage.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >On Wednesday, May 05/13/20, 2020 at 11:25:23 +0000, Bernard
> > >Metzler
> > >> > >wrote:
> > >> > >> -----"Krishnamraju Eraparaju" <krishna2@chelsio.com> wrote:
> > >-----
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> >To: "Bernard Metzler" <BMT@zurich.ibm.com>
> > >> > >> >From: "Krishnamraju Eraparaju" <krishna2@chelsio.com>
> > >> > >> >Date: 05/13/2020 05:50AM
> > >> > >> >Cc: faisal.latif@intel.com, shiraz.saleem@intel.com,
> > >> > >> >mkalderon@marvell.com, aelior@marvell.com,
> > >dledford@redhat.com,
> > >> > >> >jgg@ziepe.ca, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, bharat@chelsio.com,
> > >> > >> >nirranjan@chelsio.com
> > >> > >> >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: [RFC PATCH] RDMA/siw:
> > >Experimental
> > >> > >> >e2e negotiation of GSO usage.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >On Monday, May 05/11/20, 2020 at 15:28:47 +0000, Bernard
> > >Metzler
> > >> > >> >wrote:
> > >> > >> >> -----"Krishnamraju Eraparaju" <krishna2@chelsio.com> wrote:
> > >> > >-----
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >To: "Bernard Metzler" <BMT@zurich.ibm.com>
> > >> > >> >> >From: "Krishnamraju Eraparaju" <krishna2@chelsio.com>
> > >> > >> >> >Date: 05/07/2020 01:07PM
> > >> > >> >> >Cc: faisal.latif@intel.com, shiraz.saleem@intel.com,
> > >> > >> >> >mkalderon@marvell.com, aelior@marvell.com,
> > >dledford@redhat.com,
> > >> > >> >> >jgg@ziepe.ca, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
> > >bharat@chelsio.com,
> > >> > >> >> >nirranjan@chelsio.com
> > >> > >> >> >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: [RFC PATCH] RDMA/siw:
> > >Experimental
> > >> > >e2e
> > >> > >> >> >negotiation of GSO usage.
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >Hi Bernard,
> > >> > >> >> >Thanks for the review comments. Replied in line.
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >On Tuesday, May 05/05/20, 2020 at 11:19:46 +0000, Bernard
> > >> > >Metzler
> > >> > >> >> >wrote:
> > >> > >> >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >> -----"Krishnamraju Eraparaju" <krishna2@chelsio.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >> > >> >-----
> > >> > >> >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >> >To: "Bernard Metzler" <BMT@zurich.ibm.com>
> > >> > >> >> >> >From: "Krishnamraju Eraparaju" <krishna2@chelsio.com>
> > >> > >> >> >> >Date: 04/28/2020 10:01PM
> > >> > >> >> >> >Cc: faisal.latif@intel.com, shiraz.saleem@intel.com,
> > >> > >> >> >> >mkalderon@marvell.com, aelior@marvell.com,
> > >> > >dledford@redhat.com,
> > >> > >> >> >> >jgg@ziepe.ca, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
> > >> > >bharat@chelsio.com,
> > >> > >> >> >> >nirranjan@chelsio.com
> > >> > >> >> >> >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [RFC PATCH] RDMA/siw:
> > >Experimental
> > >> > >e2e
> > >> > >> >> >> >negotiation of GSO usage.
> > >> > >> >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >> >On Wednesday, April 04/15/20, 2020 at 11:59:21 +0000,
> > >> > >Bernard
> > >> > >> >> >Metzler
> > >> > >> >> >> >wrote:
> > >> > >> >> >> >Hi Bernard,
> > >> > >> >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >> >The attached patches enables the GSO negotiation code
> > >in SIW
> > >> > >> >with
> > >> > >> >> >> >few modifications, and also allows hardware iwarp
> > >drivers to
> > >> > >> >> >> >advertise
> > >> > >> >> >> >their max length(in 16/32/64KB granularity) that they
> > >can
> > >> > >> >accept.
> > >> > >> >> >> >The logic is almost similar to how TCP SYN MSS
> > >announcements
> > >> > >> >works
> > >> > >> >> >> >while
> > >> > >> >> >> >3-way handshake.
> > >> > >> >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >> >Please see if this approach works better for softiwarp
> > ><=>
> > >> > >> >> >hardiwarp
> > >> > >> >> >> >case.
> > >> > >> >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >> >Thanks,
> > >> > >> >> >> >Krishna.
> > >> > >> >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >> Hi Krishna,
> > >> > >> >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >> Thanks for providing this. I have a few comments:
> > >> > >> >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >> It would be good if we can look at patches inlined in
> > >the
> > >> > >> >> >> email body, as usual.
> > >> > >> >> >Sure, will do that henceforth.
> > >> > >> >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >> Before further discussing a complex solution as
> > >suggested
> > >> > >> >> >> here, I would like to hear comments from other iWarp HW
> > >> > >> >> >> vendors on their capabilities regarding GSO frame
> > >acceptance
> > >> > >> >> >> and potential preferences.
> > >> > >> >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >> The extension proposed here goes beyond what I initially
> > >sent
> > >> > >> >> >> as a proposed patch. From an siw point of view, it is
> > >> > >straight
> > >> > >> >> >> forward to select using GSO or not, depending on the
> > >iWarp
> > >> > >peer
> > >> > >> >> >> ability to process large frames. What is proposed here
> > >is a
> > >> > >> >> >> end-to-end negotiation of the actual frame size.
> > >> > >> >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >> A comment in the patch you sent suggests adding a module
> > >> > >> >> >> parameter. Module parameters are deprecated, and I
> > >removed
> > >> > >any
> > >> > >> >> >> of those from siw when it went upstream. I don't think
> > >we can
> > >> > >> >> >> rely on that mechanism.
> > >> > >> >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >> siw has a compile time parameter (yes, that was a module
> > >> > >> >> >> parameter) which can set the maximum tx frame size (in
> > >> > >multiples
> > >> > >> >> >> of MTU size). Any static setup of siw <-> Chelsio could
> > >make
> > >> > >> >> >> use of that as a work around.
> > >> > >> >> >>
> > >> > >> >> >> I wonder if it would be a better idea to look into an
> > >> > >extension
> > >> > >> >> >> of the rdma netlink protocol, which would allow setting
> > >> > >driver
> > >> > >> >> >> specific parameters per port, or even per QP.
> > >> > >> >> >> I assume there are more potential use cases for driver
> > >> > >private
> > >> > >> >> >> extensions of the rdma netlink interface?
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >I think, the only problem with "configuring FPDU length
> > >via
> > >> > >rdma
> > >> > >> >> >netlink" is the enduser might not feel comfortable in
> > >finding
> > >> > >what
> > >> > >> >> >adapter
> > >> > >> >> >is installed at the remote endpoint and what length it
> > >> > >supports.
> > >> > >> >Any
> > >> > >> >> >thoughts on simplify this?
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Nope. This would be 'out of band' information.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> So we seem to have 3 possible solutions to the problem:
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> (1) detect if the peer accepts FPDUs up to current GSO
> > >size,
> > >> > >> >> this is what I initially proposed. (2) negotiate a max FPDU
> > >> > >> >> size with the peer, this is what you are proposing, or (3)
> > >> > >> >> explicitly set that max FPDU size per extended user
> > >interface.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> My problem with (2) is the rather significant proprietary
> > >> > >> >> extension of MPA, since spare bits code a max value
> > >negotiation.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> I proposed (1) for its simplicity - just a single bit flag,
> > >> > >> >> which de-/selects GSO size for FPDUs on TX. Since Chelsio
> > >> > >> >> can handle _some_ larger (up to 16k, you said) sizes, (1)
> > >> > >> >> might have to be extended to cap at hard coded max size.
> > >> > >> >> Again, it would be good to know what other vendors limits
> > >> > >> >> are.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Does 16k for siw  <-> Chelsio already yield a decent
> > >> > >> >> performance win?
> > >> > >> >yes, 3x performance gain with just 16K GSO, compared to GSO
> > >> > >diabled
> > >> > >> >case. where MTU size is 1500.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> That is a lot. At the other hand, I would suggest to always
> > >> > >> increase MTU size to max (9k) for adapters siw attaches to.
> > >> > >> With a page size of 4k, anything below 4k MTU size hurts,
> > >> > >> while 9k already packs two consecutive pages into one frame,
> > >> > >> if aligned.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Would 16k still gain a significant performance win if we have
> > >> > >> set max MTU size for the interface?
> > >> Unfortunately no difference in throughput when MTU is 9K, for 16K
> > >FPDU.
> > >> Looks like TCP stack constructs GSO/TSO buffer in multiples of HW
> > >> MSS(tp->mss_cache). So, as 16K FPDU buffer is not a multiple of 9K,
> > >TCP
> > >> stack slices 16K buffer into 9K & 7K buffers before passing it to
> > >NIC
> > >> driver.
> > >> Thus no difference in perfromance as each tx packet to NIC cannot
> > >go
> > >> beyond 9K, when FPDU len is 16K.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> >Regarding the rdma netlink approach that you are suggesting,
> > >> > >should
> > >> > >> >it
> > >> > >> >be similar like below(?):
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >rdma link set iwp3s0f4/1 max_fpdu_len 102.1.1.6:16384,
> > >> > >> >102.5.5.6:32768
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >rdma link show iwp3s0f4/1 max_fpdu_len
> > >> > >> >        102.1.1.6:16384
> > >> > >> >        102.5.5.6:32768
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >where "102.1.1.6" is the destination IP address(such that the
> > >same
> > >> > >> >max
> > >> > >> >fpdu length is taken for all the connections to this
> > >> > >> >address/adapter).
> > >> > >> >And "16384" is max fdpu length.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> Yes, that would be one way of doing it. Unfortunately we would
> > >> > >> end up with maintaining additional permanent in kernel state
> > >> > >> per peer we ever configured.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> So, would it make sense to combine it with the iwpmd, which
> > >> > >> then may cache peers, while setting max_fpdu per new
> > >> > >> connection? This would probably include extending the
> > >> > >> proprietary port mapper protocol, to exchange local
> > >> > >> preferences with the peer. Local capabilities might be queried
> > >> > >> from the device (extending enum ib_mtu to more than 4k, and
> > >> > >> using ibv_query_port()). And the iw_cm_id to be extended to
> > >> > >> carry that extra parameter down to the driver... Sounds
> > >> > >> complicated.
> > >> > >If I understand you right, client/server advertises their Max
> > >FPDU
> > >> > >len
> > >> > >in Res field of PMReq/PMAccept frames.
> > >> > >typedef struct iwpm_wire_msg {
> > >> > >        __u8    magic;
> > >> > >        __u8    pmtime;
> > >> > >        __be16  reserved;
> > >> > >Then after Portmapper negotiation, the fpdu len is propagated to
> > >SIW
> > >> > >qp
> > >> > >strucutre from userspace iwpmd.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >If we weigh up the pros and cons of using PortMapper Res field
> > >vs MPA
> > >> > >Res feild, then looks like using MPA is less complicated,
> > >considering
> > >> > >the lines of changes and modules invovled in changes. Not sure
> > >my
> > >> > >analysis is right here?
> > >> > >
> > >> > One important difference IMHO is that one approach would touch an
> > >> > established IETF communication protocol (MPA), the other a
> > >> > proprietary application (iwpmd).
> > >> Ok, will explore more on iwpmd approach, may be prototyping this
> > >would help.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > >Between, looks like the existing SIW GSO code needs a logic to
> > >limit
> > >> > >"c_tx->tcp_seglen" to 64K-1, as MPA len is only 16bit. Say, in
> > >future
> > >> > >to
> > >> > >best utilize 400G Ethernet, if Linux TCP stack has increased
> > >> > >GSO_MAX_SIZE to 128K, then SIW will cast 18bit value to 16bit
> > >MPA
> > >> > >len.
> > >> > >
> > >> > Isn't GSO bound to IP fragmentation?
> > >> Not sure. But I would say it's better we limit "c_tx->tcp_seglen"
> > >> somewhere to 64K-1 to avoid future risks.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Bernard
> > >> >
> > >
> >

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-31  7:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2020-04-14 14:48 ` [RFC PATCH] RDMA/siw: Experimental e2e negotiation of GSO usage Bernard Metzler
2020-04-15 11:59   ` Bernard Metzler
2020-04-15 12:52     ` Krishnamraju Eraparaju
2020-04-28 20:00     ` Krishnamraju Eraparaju
2020-05-05 11:19     ` Bernard Metzler
2020-05-07 11:06       ` Krishnamraju Eraparaju
2020-05-11 15:28       ` Bernard Metzler
2020-05-13  3:49         ` Krishnamraju Eraparaju
2020-05-13 11:25         ` Bernard Metzler
2020-05-14 11:17           ` Krishnamraju Eraparaju
2020-05-14 13:07           ` Bernard Metzler
2020-05-15 13:50             ` Krishnamraju Eraparaju
2020-05-15 13:58               ` Krishnamraju Eraparaju
2020-05-26 13:57               ` Bernard Metzler
2020-05-27 16:07                 ` Krishnamraju Eraparaju
2020-05-31  7:03                   ` Michal Kalderon [this message]
2020-05-29 15:20                 ` Saleem, Shiraz
2020-05-29 15:48                 ` Bernard Metzler

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