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From: Gal Pressman <galpress@amazon.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK" 
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oded Gabbay <ogabbay@habana.ai>, Tomer Tayar <ttayar@habana.ai>,
	Yossi Leybovich <sleybo@amazon.com>,
	Alexander Matushevsky <matua@amazon.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
	Jianxin Xiong <jianxin.xiong@intel.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Make use of non-dynamic dmabuf in RDMA
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 12:06:00 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e2c47256-de89-7eaa-e5c2-5b96efcec834@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa124990-ee0c-7401-019e-08109e338042@amd.com>

On 23/08/2021 13:43, Christian König wrote:
> Am 21.08.21 um 11:16 schrieb Gal Pressman:
>> On 20/08/2021 17:32, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 03:58:33PM +0300, Gal Pressman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Though it would've been nicer if we could agree on a solution that could work
>>>> for more than 1-2 RDMA devices, using the existing tools the RDMA subsystem
>>>> has.
>>> I don't think it can really be done, revoke is necessary, and isn't a
>>> primitive we have today.
>>>
>>> Revoke is sort of like rereg MR, but with a guaranteed no-change to
>>> the lkey/rkey
>>>
>>> Then there is the locking complexity of linking the mr creation and
>>> destruction to the lifecycle of the pages, which is messy and maybe
>>> not general. For instance mlx5 would call its revoke_mr, disconnect
>>> the dmabuf then destroy the mkey - but this is only safe because mlx5
>>> HW can handle concurrent revokes.
>> Thanks, that makes sense.
>>
>>>> That's why I tried to approach this by denying such attachments for non-ODP
>>>> importers instead of exposing a "limited" dynamic importer.
>>> That is fine if there is no revoke - once revoke exists we must have
>>> driver and HW support.
>> Agree.
>> IIUC, we're talking about three different exporter "types":
>> - Dynamic with move_notify (requires ODP)
>> - Dynamic with revoke_notify
>> - Static
>>
>> Which changes do we need to make the third one work?
> 
> Basically none at all in the framework.
> 
> You just need to properly use the dma_buf_pin() function when you start using a
> buffer (e.g. before you create an attachment) and the dma_buf_unpin() function
> after you are done with the DMA-buf.

I replied to your previous mail, but I'll ask again.
Doesn't the pin operation migrate the memory to host memory?

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-24  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-18  7:43 [RFC] Make use of non-dynamic dmabuf in RDMA Gal Pressman
2021-08-18  8:00 ` Christian König
2021-08-18  8:37   ` Gal Pressman
2021-08-18  9:34 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-08-19 23:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-20  7:25     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-08-20 12:33       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-20 12:58         ` Gal Pressman
2021-08-20 14:32           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-21  9:16             ` Gal Pressman
2021-08-23 10:43               ` Christian König
2021-08-24  9:06                 ` Gal Pressman [this message]
2021-08-24  9:32                   ` Christian König
2021-08-24 17:27                     ` John Hubbard
2021-08-24 17:32                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-24 17:35                         ` John Hubbard
2021-08-24 19:15                           ` Dave Airlie
2021-08-24 19:30                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-24 19:43                             ` Alex Deucher
2021-08-24 20:00                               ` Xiong, Jianxin
2021-08-25  6:17                         ` Christian König
2021-08-25  6:47                           ` John Hubbard
2021-08-25 12:18                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-25 12:27                             ` Christian König
2021-08-25 12:38                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-25 13:51                                 ` Christian König
2021-08-25 14:47                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-25 15:14                                     ` Christian König
2021-08-25 15:49                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-25 16:02                                       ` Oded Gabbay
2021-09-01 11:20                         ` Gal Pressman
2021-09-01 11:24                           ` Christian König
2021-09-02  6:56                             ` Gal Pressman

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