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From: Marek Vasut <>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <>
Cc:, Bjorn Helgaas <>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <>,
	Wolfram Sang <>,
	Yoshihiro Shimoda <>,
Subject: Re: [PATCH V6] PCI: rcar: Add L1 link state fix into data abort hook
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 20:14:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210717173334.GA2232818@bjorn-Precision-5520>

On 7/17/21 7:33 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:

>> Note that this fixup is applicable only to Aarch32 R-Car controllers,
>> the Aarch64 R-Car perform the same fixup in TFA, see TFA commit [1]
>> 0969397f2 ("rcar_gen3: plat: Prevent PCIe hang during L1X config access")
>> [1]
> This patch is horribly ugly but it's working around a horrible
> hardware problem, and I don't have any better suggestions, so I guess
> we don't really have much choice.
> I do think the commit log is a bit glib:

Should I reword the commit message one more time and send V7 ?

>    - "The R-Car PCIe controller is capable of handling L0s/L1 link
>      states."  AFAICT every PCIe device is required to handle L0 and L1
>      without software assistance.  So saying R-Car is "capable" puts a
>      better face on this than seems warranted.
>      L0s doesn't seem relevant at all; at least it doesn't seem to play
>      a role in the patch.  There's no such thing as "returning to L0s"
>      as mentioned in the comment below; L0s is only reachable from L0.
>      Returns from L1 only go to L0 (PCIe r5.0, fig 5-1).
>    - "The problem is, this transition is not atomic."  I think the
>      *problem* is the hardware is broken in the first place.  This
>      transition is supposed to be invisible to software.
>    - "Just like other PCI controller drivers ..." suggests that this is
>      an ordinary situation that we shouldn't be concerned about.  This
>      patch may be the best we can do to work around a bad hardware
>      defect, but it's definitely not ordinary.
>      I think the other hook_fault_code() uses are for reporting
>      legitimate PCIe errors, which most controllers log and turn
>      into ~0 data responses without generating an abort or machine
>      check, not things caused by hardware defects, so they're not
>      really comparable.
> Has Renesas documented this as an erratum?

They are aware of this.

> Will future devices
> require additions to rcar_pcie_abort_handler_of_match[]?

No, this change is for legacy arm32 SoCs only.

> It'd be nice if the commit log mentioned the user-visible effect of
> this problem.  I guess it does mention external aborts -- I assume you
> see those when downstream devices go to D3hot or when ASPM puts the
> link in L1?  And the abort results in a reboot?

It results in a hang.

> To be clear, I'm not objecting to the patch.  It's a hardware problem
> and we should work around it as best we can.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-17 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-14 20:05 marek.vasut
2021-05-17  7:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-07-17 17:33 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-07-17 18:14   ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2021-07-19  8:59   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2021-07-19 15:38     ` Marek Vasut
2021-07-19 17:23     ` Pali Rohár
2021-07-19 18:39       ` Marek Vasut
2021-07-22 20:31         ` Pali Rohár
2021-07-19 22:06       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-07-27 16:11       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2021-07-27 16:16         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-07-26 14:47   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-07-26 17:49     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-07-27 16:32       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2021-08-05 18:30         ` Pali Rohár
2021-07-27 17:08       ` Marek Vasut
2021-08-04 11:06         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi

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