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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
Cc: Luca Ceresoli <luca@lucaceresoli.net>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	Kieran Bingham <kieran@ksquared.org.uk>,
	Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>,
	Vladimir Zapolskiy <vz@mleia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/5] i2c: core: add function to request an alias
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 15:34:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200108133447.GC4884@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200108131929.GA834@kunai>

On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 02:19:29PM +0100, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> 
> > > > As I said to Laurent, too, I think the risk that a bus is not fully
> > > > described is higher than a device which does not respond to a read_byte.
> > > > In both cases, we would wrongly use an address in use.
> > 
> > I don't fully agree with this, I think we shouldn't impose a penalty on
> > every user because some device trees don't fully describe the hardware.
> 
> I haven't decided yet. However, my general preference is that for a
> generic OS like Linux, saftey comes first, then performance. If you have
> a fully described DT, then the overhead will be 1 read_byte transaction
> per requested alias at probe time. We could talk about using quick_read
> to half the overhead. You could even patch it away, if it is too much
> for $customer.
> 
> > I think we should, at the very least, skip the probe and rely on DT if
> > DT explicitly states that all used addresses are listed. We discussed a
> > property to report addresses used by devices not described in DT, if
> > that property is listed I would prefer trusting DT.
> 
> Yeah, we discussed this property and I have no intentions of dropping
> it. I haven't though of including it into this series, but it probably
> makes sense. We don't have to define much anyhow, just state what
> already exists, I guess.
> 
> From Documentation/devicetree/bindings/i2c/i2c-ocores.txt:
> 
> 	dummy@60 {
> 		compatible = "dummy";
> 		reg = <0x60>;
> 	};
> 
> I think "dummy" is generic enough to be described in i2c.txt.

We may want a compatible value that guarantees noone will ever match it
:-) I was imagining a single property at the bus level with multiple
ranges instead, but dummy nodes could be OK too.


-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-01-08 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-31 16:13 [RFC PATCH 0/5] i2c: implement mechanism to retrieve an alias device Wolfram Sang
2019-12-31 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] i2c: core: refactor scanning for a client Wolfram Sang
2020-01-01 16:45   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-07  9:26   ` Kieran Bingham
2020-01-07  9:53     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-01-07  9:58       ` Kieran Bingham
2020-01-07 10:25       ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-07 10:36         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-01-07 11:23           ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-07 15:03             ` Luca Ceresoli
2020-01-07 16:45               ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-07 16:52                 ` Kieran Bingham
2019-12-31 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] i2c: core: add new variant to check " Wolfram Sang
2020-01-01 16:49   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-07  9:42   ` Kieran Bingham
2019-12-31 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] i2c: core: add function to request an alias Wolfram Sang
2020-01-01 16:55   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-02 18:58     ` Luca Ceresoli
2020-01-02 21:13       ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-02 22:27         ` Luca Ceresoli
2020-01-03  0:10           ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-07 15:03             ` Luca Ceresoli
2020-01-07 17:13               ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-08 13:27                 ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-08 13:31                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-08 13:38                     ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-08 13:22               ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-08 13:19             ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-08 13:29               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-01-08 13:34               ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2020-01-02 21:03     ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-21  9:05     ` Peter Rosin
2020-01-07  9:40   ` Kieran Bingham
2020-01-07 17:11     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-07 17:14       ` Kieran Bingham
2020-01-08 13:35         ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-08 13:36           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-31 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] i2c: core: add simple caching to the 'alias' scanning Wolfram Sang
2020-01-07  9:59   ` Kieran Bingham
2020-01-21  9:22   ` Peter Rosin
2019-12-31 16:14 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] simple test case for the I2C alias functionality Wolfram Sang
2019-12-31 16:27 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] i2c: implement mechanism to retrieve an alias device Wolfram Sang

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