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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@baylibre.com>,
	Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>,
	Maling list - DRI developers  <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"open list:DRM DRIVERS FOR RENESAS" 
	<linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 27/27] drm: Add default modes for connectors in unknown state
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 09:56:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200625075655.GC3278063@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADnq5_OyZb9xs+aLQ1rRUv8qvLTrnKD8Y7eUs=iVD3pUrc3RiA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 03:40:42PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:31 PM Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:24 PM Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:23 AM Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 04:12:09AM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > Hi Sam,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 10:40:00AM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 04:15:05AM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > The DRM CRTC helpers add default modes to connectors in the connected
> > > > > > > state if no mode can be retrieved from the connector. This behaviour is
> > > > > > > useful for VGA or DVI outputs that have no connected DDC bus. However,
> > > > > > > in such cases, the status of the output usually can't be retrieved and
> > > > > > > is reported as connector_status_unknown.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Extend the addition of default modes to connectors in an unknown state
> > > > > > > to support outputs that can retrieve neither the modes nor the
> > > > > > > connection status.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From your description sounds like an OK approach.
> > > > > > But this is not something I feel too familiar with.
> > > > > > Acked-by: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the ack. I'd like to have Daniel's (CC'ed) feedback on this
> > > > > too.
> > > >
> > > > Makes sense, and at least pre-coffee me can't immediately think of a
> > > > scenario where we're going to regret this. _unknown status is pretty much
> > > > limited to old VGA and similar things where load detect somehow isn't well
> > > > supported by the hw.
> > > >
> > > > Reviewed-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >  drivers/gpu/drm/drm_probe_helper.c       | 3 ++-
> > > > > > >  include/drm/drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h | 8 +++++++-
> > > > > > >  2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_probe_helper.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_probe_helper.c
> > > > > > > index f5d141e0400f..9055d9573c90 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_probe_helper.c
> > > > > > > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_probe_helper.c
> > > > > > > @@ -491,7 +491,8 @@ int drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes(struct drm_connector *connector,
> > > > > > >   if (count == 0 && connector->status == connector_status_connected)
> > > > > > >           count = drm_add_override_edid_modes(connector);
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - if (count == 0 && connector->status == connector_status_connected)
> > > > > > > + if (count == 0 && (connector->status == connector_status_connected ||
> > > > > > > +                    connector->status == connector_status_unknown))
> > > > > > >           count = drm_add_modes_noedid(connector, 1024, 768);
> > > > > > >   count += drm_helper_probe_add_cmdline_mode(connector);
> > > > > > >   if (count == 0)
> > > > > > > diff --git a/include/drm/drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h b/include/drm/drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h
> > > > > > > index 421a30f08463..afe55e2e93d2 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/include/drm/drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h
> > > > > > > +++ b/include/drm/drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h
> > > > > > > @@ -876,13 +876,19 @@ struct drm_connector_helper_funcs {
> > > > > > >    * The usual way to implement this is to cache the EDID retrieved in the
> > > > > > >    * probe callback somewhere in the driver-private connector structure.
> > > > > > >    * In this function drivers then parse the modes in the EDID and add
> > > > > > > -  * them by calling drm_add_edid_modes(). But connectors that driver a
> > > > > > > +  * them by calling drm_add_edid_modes(). But connectors that drive a
> > > > > > >    * fixed panel can also manually add specific modes using
> > > > > > >    * drm_mode_probed_add(). Drivers which manually add modes should also
> > > > > > >    * make sure that the &drm_connector.display_info,
> > > > > > >    * &drm_connector.width_mm and &drm_connector.height_mm fields are
> > > > > > >    * filled in.
> > > > > > >    *
> > > > > > > +  * Note that the caller function will automatically add standard VESA
> > > > > > > +  * DMT modes up to 1024x768 if the .get_modes() helper operation returns
> > > > > > > +  * no mode and if the connector status is connector_status_connected or
> > > > > > > +  * connector_status_unknown. There is no need to call
> > > > > > > +  * drm_add_edid_modes() manually in that case.
> > > >
> > > > Hm calling drm_add_edid_modes if you have no edid is a bit a funny idea
> > > > ... Personally I'd just leave out the last sentence, I think that only
> > > > confuses readers. Or I'm not grasphing what you're trying to tell here.
> > >
> > > IIRC, some drivers used and desktop environments expected unknown
> > > rather than off for LVDS/eDP panels when the lid was shut or if the
> > > mux was switched to another device in the case of hybrid laptops.
> >
> > We seem to have totally ditched that in
> >
> > commit 05c72e77ccda89ff624108b1b59a0fc43843f343
> > Author: Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
> > Date:   Tue Jul 17 20:42:14 2018 +0300
> >
> >     drm/i915: Nuke the LVDS lid notifier
> >
> > No screaming yet.
> >
> > But I'm also a bit confused, for a panel there's generally an edid
> > around, or a fixed (list of) modes. That's enough to stop this
> > fallback from running, so should be all fine.
> 
> No, you are right; you will have the EDID so this shouldn't be an
> issue.  I was mis-remembering the original issue.  We originally
> always reported connected for LVDS in radeon if the panel was present,
> but then we got flack because some userspace expected unknown in
> certain cases (e.g., lid or muxed displays).  Either way the EDID info
> is still there.

Yeah I think i915 started that habit, but I guess people realized it's
unreliable enough that they should have their own lid handler in the
desktop enviromnent doing whatever they want to do on lid close.

Should we perhaps document that somewhere, that panels are always marked
as connected? Not even sure where to put that in the docs ...

Maybe adding a few of the usual suspects from the compositor side, Simon,
Pekka?
-Daniel

> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> > -Daniell
> >
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > r-b with or without this change since imo super tiny nit.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Daniel
> > > >
> > > > > > > +  *
> > > > > > >    * Virtual drivers that just want some standard VESA mode with a given
> > > > > > >    * resolution can call drm_add_modes_noedid(), and mark the preferred
> > > > > > >    * one using drm_set_preferred_mode().
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Laurent Pinchart
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Daniel Vetter
> > > > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> > > > http://blog.ffwll.ch
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > dri-devel mailing list
> > > > dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> > > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Vetter
> > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> > http://blog.ffwll.ch

-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-25  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-26  1:14 [PATCH 00/27] Converter R-Car DU to the DRM bridge connector helper Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 01/27] drm: bridge: adv7511: Split EDID read to a separate function Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 02/27] drm: bridge: adv7511: Split connector creation " Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 03/27] drm: bridge: adv7511: Implement bridge connector operations Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-21  8:25   ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 04/27] drm: bridge: adv7511: Make connector creation optional Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 05/27] drm: bridge: Return NULL on error from drm_bridge_get_edid() Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-21  8:26   ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 06/27] drm: bridge: simple-bridge: Delegate operations to next bridge Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 07/27] drm: bridge: simple-bridge: Make connector creation optional Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 08/27] drm: rcar-du: lvds: Convert to DRM panel bridge helper Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 09/27] drm: edid: Constify connector argument to infoframe functions Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-21  8:27   ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 10/27] drm: bridge: Pass drm_display_info to drm_bridge_funcs .mode_valid() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26 12:51   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26 12:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2020-05-26 14:05   ` Guido Günther
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 11/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Pass private data pointer to .mode_valid() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:44   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 12/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Pass private data pointer to .configure_phy() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:45   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 13/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Remove unused field from dw_hdmi_plat_data Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:45   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 14/27] drm: meson: dw-hdmi: Use dw_hdmi context to replace hack Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26 12:32   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 15/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Pass drm_display_info to .mode_valid() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:46   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 16/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Constify mode argument to dw_hdmi_phy_ops .init() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:46   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 17/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Constify mode argument to internal functions Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:46   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 18/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Pass drm_display_info to dw_hdmi_support_scdc() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:48   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 19/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Split connector creation to a separate function Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  9:49   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 20/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Store current connector in struct dw_hdmi Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26 12:29   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:14 ` [PATCH 21/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Pass drm_connector to internal functions as needed Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26 12:29   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26  1:15 ` [PATCH 22/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Make connector creation optional Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26 12:35   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-06-07  1:19     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:15 ` [PATCH 23/27] drm: bridge: dw-hdmi: Attach to next bridge if available Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26 12:50   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-05-26 14:23     ` Jonas Karlman
2020-06-07  1:24       ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-07  1:22     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:15 ` [PATCH 24/27] drm: rcar-du: dw-hdmi: Set output port number Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:15 ` [PATCH 25/27] drm: rcar-du: Fix error handling in rcar_du_encoder_init() Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:15 ` [PATCH 26/27] drm: rcar-du: Use drm_bridge_connector_init() helper Laurent Pinchart
2020-05-26  1:15 ` [PATCH 27/27] drm: Add default modes for connectors in unknown state Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-21  8:40   ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-06-24  1:12     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-24  7:23       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-24 15:24         ` Alex Deucher
2020-06-24 19:31           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-24 19:40             ` Alex Deucher
2020-06-25  7:56               ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2020-06-25  7:57                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-25 10:31                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-06-25 10:44                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-26  8:59                       ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-06-26  9:25                         ` Daniel Stone
2020-06-26 13:35                           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-24 22:47         ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-23 18:55 ` [PATCH 00/27] Converter R-Car DU to the DRM bridge connector helper Sam Ravnborg
2020-06-25  8:48   ` Liu Ying
2020-06-27 19:55     ` Sam Ravnborg
2020-06-28  8:28       ` Laurent Pinchart

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