From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BC4C433E0 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 15:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD83620720 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 15:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729286AbgGFPsR (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Jul 2020 11:48:17 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-f66.google.com ([209.85.210.66]:38949 "EHLO mail-ot1-f66.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729267AbgGFPsR (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Jul 2020 11:48:17 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-f66.google.com with SMTP id 18so31974212otv.6 for ; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 08:48:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1EUcbJgbBzEFDlbv+pkF55apKN6XwPyTfyZDRfR1on0=; b=Cp60lvR55Ns7VwU+oPsG4JAWHGCTXeZr0qhnuZuR/m8Et+W+mliexbrqgHxzdhSMgi sqT74c+bfLyIYe37yxZNoPzNM7JkKI81TOVB8//e+V5u1whihl9ZBFFeYdUZipZYhMr5 dSVsNG+OUTzO9xES9SaR/jJywV5JQORm3CjrjveBWD5r6BoKa82EfDuXqdlI86I4j8lC qkR1IsR/BEJqUcYR9K/ujqz4dViCGQrmKjth0w+PNQpP/wUzz1OckHd+7fmZnnXgFwN5 cesA+vPvksPPji9xZfLBPyBF4CdbWXgJxm9f8K70phZRPRGHZKHRHeuC21t/SyUaoaoZ YlKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530CTpbBH3c3sr5HHWaRMx2rwZwurMf9M9bzo3JFctcX/8DPot7n jDNp9YFGQt3YoonfqrDjU9UX75JYFIoZADZAEmU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxB10YBmPOVkmE4T7v7WRmySmznCIGl/iw923XtLWkznWmMhEsANM70l9FkI2X4Go6IxbvTbxkpWS7rdsaj8Ho= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1451:: with SMTP id w17mr29648201otp.250.1594050496399; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 08:48:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200703120642.5128-1-geert+renesas@glider.be> <20200703120642.5128-2-geert+renesas@glider.be> In-Reply-To: From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 17:48:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL 1/2] Renesas ARM defconfig updates for v5.9 To: Arnd Bergmann List-Id: Cc: arm-soc , arm-soc , Magnus Damm , Linux ARM , Linux-Renesas Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-renesas-soc-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org Hi Arnd, On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 5:41 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:45 PM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:37 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 2:07 PM Geert Uytterhoeven > > > wrote: > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Renesas ARM defconfig updates for v5.9 > > > > > > > > - Refresh shmobile_defconfig for v5.8-rc1 > > > > - Enable additional support for Renesas platforms to > > > > shmobile_defconfig, multi_v7_defconfig, and the arm64 defconfig. > > > > > > As you write on one of the commits > > > > > > "All of the above are modular, except for Ethernet support (HDMI Audio > > > support is an optional feature of the modular ADV7511 driver)." > > > > > > I'm starting to see some demand for making more drivers loadable modules > > > that are traditionally built-in. Can you give a more specific reason why > > > this one (and I guess CONFIG_RAVB next to it) should not a loadable module? > > > > We tend to make Ethernet built-in, to ease testing using nfsroot. > > If that is no longer desirable, I guess we'll have to improve our initramfs > > skills ;-) > > I'm not sure either. My feeling is that we should probably make all network > support loadable modules eventually, it seems wrong to single out yours > if your current workflow depends on the built-in driver today. Most non-USB Ethernet drivers seem to be built-in? > I'm pulling your branch for now, but I'll keep asking around what others > think, and we might change all drivers that can to be loadable > modules later on. Thanks! > In particular, a number of chips that primarily run Android are now > changed so they can have even more fundamental drivers (pinctrl, > clk, ...) as loadable modules, and it seems like a good idea to > also support that in the defconfig. Aren't the Android devices usually using WiFi, and no nfsroot? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds