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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
Cc: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] i2c: add suspended flag and accessors for i2c adapters
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 11:00:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e8bfcadc-7c1a-6659-7173-4ce484ceeca3@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181219223341.GA998@kunai>

Hi,

On 19-12-18 23:33, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> Hi Lukas, Hans,
> 
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 07:36:54PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 19-12-18 18:22, Lukas Wunner wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 05:48:17PM +0100, Wolfram Sang wrote:
>>>> +static inline void i2c_mark_adapter_suspended(struct i2c_adapter *adap)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	i2c_lock_bus(adap, I2C_LOCK_ROOT_ADAPTER);
>>>> +	set_bit(I2C_ALF_IS_SUSPENDED, &adap->locked_flags);
>>>> +	i2c_unlock_bus(adap, I2C_LOCK_ROOT_ADAPTER);
>>>> +}
>>>
>>> This looks like a duplication of the is_suspended flag in struct dev_pm_info.
>>> Any reason why you can't use that?  If so, it would be good to document the
>>> reason in the commit message.
>>
>> Oh, that is a very good point and that one only gets set on system suspend
>> and not on resume suspend, working around the problems with the i2c-designware
> 
> Just to make it clear: you mean runtime suspend, not resume suspend, or?

Yes I mean runtime-suspend, sorry.

>> driver.
>>
>> I think this might be as simple as adding:
>>
>> 	if (WARN_ON(adap->dev.parent->power.is_suspended))
>> 		return -ESHUTDOWN;
> 
> I have seen this flag but decided against it. One reason is because it
> is marked as "PM core only".

Right and we definitely should not be touching it, but reading it should
be fine.

> The other reason is that it doesn't know
> about the adapter lock. It might get set while a transfer is on going.
> Or even right after the suggested if-block above. The code from this
> series gets the mutex first which ensures that on going transfers are
> completed and no new ones are started in parallel.
> 
> Unless I am totally overlooking something...

No you are right, there is a race here, but I don't think we are likely to
hit that race. Normally there won't be any ongoing i2c-transfers during
a system suspend and more over, the goal of adding this check is to help
find problems, so even if the check sometimes does not trigger because
of the race that is not really a big deal.

I think we need to get really unlucky to have both a suspend ordering
problem in the first case (already a somewhat rare thing) combined with
hitting this race in such a way *each time* that we don't trigger the
WARN_ON.

To me this seems a case of perfect being the enemy of good. When we
first started discussing this you wanted to not have to modify the
adapter/bus drivers for the check, using adap->dev.parent->power.is_suspended
gives us that and it will also work for complex cases like
the i2c-designware case, so I believe the benefits outway the downsides.

Regards,

Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-20 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-19 16:48 [PATCH 00/10] i2c: move handling of suspended adapters to the core Wolfram Sang
2018-12-19 16:48 ` [PATCH 01/10] i2c: add suspended flag and accessors for i2c adapters Wolfram Sang
2018-12-19 17:22   ` Lukas Wunner
2018-12-19 18:36     ` Hans de Goede
2018-12-19 22:33       ` Wolfram Sang
2018-12-20 10:00         ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2018-12-20 21:09           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-12-21 10:43             ` Hans de Goede
2018-12-21 14:50           ` Wolfram Sang
2018-12-21 18:40             ` Peter Rosin
2018-12-21 18:50               ` Wolfram Sang
2018-12-19 16:48 ` [PATCH 02/10] i2c: reject new transfers when adapters are suspended Wolfram Sang
2018-12-19 16:48 ` [PATCH 03/10] i2c: synquacer: remove unused is_suspended flag Wolfram Sang
2018-12-19 16:48 ` [PATCH 04/10] i2c: brcmstb: use core helper to mark adapter suspended Wolfram Sang
2018-12-19 16:48 ` [PATCH 05/10] i2c: zx2967: " Wolfram Sang
2018-12-19 16:48 ` [PATCH 06/10] i2c: sprd: don't use pdev as variable name for struct device * Wolfram Sang
2018-12-21  8:58   ` Baolin Wang
2018-12-19 16:48 ` [PATCH 07/10] i2c: sprd: use core helper to mark adapter suspended Wolfram Sang
2018-12-21  9:03   ` Baolin Wang
2018-12-19 16:48 ` [PATCH 08/10] i2c: exynos5: " Wolfram Sang
2018-12-19 16:48 ` [PATCH 09/10] i2c: s3c2410: " Wolfram Sang
2018-12-19 16:48 ` [PATCH 10/10] i2c: rcar: add suspend/resume support Wolfram Sang
2019-01-08 20:09 ` [PATCH 00/10] i2c: move handling of suspended adapters to the core Wolfram Sang

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