From: Karsten Merker <merker@debian.org>
To: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Zong Li <zong@andestech.com>,
Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>,
olof.johansson@gmail.com, Andrew Waterman <andrew@sifive.com>,
alankao@andestech.com, Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Atish Patra <atish.patra@wdc.com>, Michael Clark <mjc@sifive.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
paul.walmsley@sifive.com, philipp@hug.cx,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, abner.chang@hpe.com,
vincentc@andestech.com, David.Abdurachmanov@cern.ch
Subject: Re: SBI extension proposal
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 17:42:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181101164205.l2bra3a6kihjpuib@excalibur.cnev.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181101094609.GE27120@redhat.com>
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 09:46:09AM +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 03:05:51PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
[...]
> > > How about putting the version information into device tree
> > > and use the compatible string? This seems more reliable
> > > than probing.
> > > e.g.
> > > firmware {
> > > sbi {
> > > compatible = "riscv,sbi-r0p1", "riscv,sbi-r0p2";
> > > };
> > > };
> >
> > If it was just DT then I think having this information in DT makes
> > sense. In future,
> > we might definitely see some ACPI support in RISC-V too (just like ARM64 world).
>
> I agree. Please try not to make things that depend on DT, as it's a
> Linux-only description which isn't suitable for other OSes and has a
> poorly defined ABI.
Hello,
the notion that DT is a "Linux-only" description and not suitable
for other operating systems isn't correct. Besides being used by
Linux, device-tree is also used by at least U-Boot, FreeBSD and
NetBSD. Based on issues in the early days of DT one can surely
discuss about device-tree ABI stability, but since then a lot of
effort has been put into making DT ABI-stable, and in my
experience this effort has been successful. On the other hand I
have experienced way more ACPI issues on x86-64 hardware than I
would like to remember, so I tend to assume that in the ACPI
world also not everything is nice and shining.
Regards,
Karsten
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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-31 18:23 SBI extension proposal Atish Patra
2018-10-31 18:23 ` Atish Patra
[not found] ` <CAK-hmcQeiGa3BwnzEVB_dyhFiC7rXHFN-wTsJomg-jAo7a+v3Q@mail.gmail.com>
2018-10-31 19:11 ` Olof Johansson
2018-10-31 19:11 ` Olof Johansson
2018-10-31 20:37 ` Atish Patra
2018-10-31 20:37 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-02 6:31 ` Chang, Abner (HPS SW/FW Technologist)
2018-11-02 6:31 ` Chang, Abner (HPS SW/FW Technologist)
2018-11-02 22:31 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-02 22:31 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-04 14:36 ` Chang, Abner (HPS SW/FW Technologist)
2018-11-04 14:36 ` Chang, Abner (HPS SW/FW Technologist)
[not found] ` <CA+h06zgcyWz7WMbzQxjyc9V5S3CokqSoO1mGOaynJE3uJE5QSg@mail.gmail.com>
2018-11-01 9:35 ` Anup Patel
2018-11-01 9:35 ` Anup Patel
2018-11-01 9:46 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2018-11-01 9:46 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2018-11-01 11:03 ` Philipp Hug
2018-11-01 11:03 ` Philipp Hug
2018-11-01 11:25 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2018-11-01 11:25 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2018-11-01 15:09 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-01 15:09 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-02 3:17 ` Olof Johansson
2018-11-02 3:17 ` Olof Johansson
2018-11-01 16:42 ` Karsten Merker [this message]
2018-11-02 2:49 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-02 2:49 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-02 3:27 ` Anup Patel
2018-11-02 3:27 ` Anup Patel
2018-11-02 4:29 ` Chang, Abner (HPS SW/FW Technologist)
2018-11-02 4:29 ` Chang, Abner (HPS SW/FW Technologist)
2018-11-02 15:24 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-02 15:24 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-02 23:12 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-02 23:12 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-02 23:45 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-02 23:45 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-03 0:00 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-03 0:00 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-05 13:50 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-05 13:50 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-05 18:51 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-05 18:51 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-06 1:55 ` Zong Li
2018-11-06 1:55 ` Zong Li
2018-11-09 21:47 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-09 21:47 ` Atish Patra
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