From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <lkml@metux.net>
Cc: Michal Marek <michal.lkml@markovi.net>,
Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com>,
Robo Bot <apw@canonical.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, "Enrico Weigelt,
metux IT consult" <info@metux.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] debian: add generic rule file
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 15:12:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190715191245.GD3068@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5af9db32-2cf5-10ba-261c-e08852d0814f@metux.net>
On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 08:56:25PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
> On 15.07.19 14:28, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
>
> >> The rule file contains a rule for creating debian/control and
> >> other metadata - this is done similar to the 'deb-pkg' make rule,
> >> scripts/packaging/mkdebian.
> >
> > I saw a similar patch submission before, and negative feedback about it.
>
> Do you recall what negative feedback exactly ?
It's possible I'm not remembering some of the feedback, but the only
thing I recall was the comment I made that I'd really like this use
case:
make O=/build/linux-build bindeb-pkg
to not break. And as far as I can tell from the proposed patch series
(I haven't had a chance to experimentally verify it yet), I don't
think it should break anything --- I'm assuming that we will still
have a way of creating the debian/rules file in
/build/linux-build/debian/rules when doing a O= build, and that the
intdeb-pkg rule remains the same. At least, it appears to be the case
from my doing a quick look at the patches.
> > Debian maintains its own debian/rules, and it is fine.
>
> Not for me, I don't use it - given up trying to make anything useful
> out of it. It's extremly complex, practically undebuggable and doesn't
> even work w/o lots of external preparations.
Yeah, the official Debian debian/rules is optimized for doing a
distribution release, and in addition to the issues Enrico has raised,
last time I tried it, it was S-L-O-W since it was building a fully
generic kernel. It's not at all useable for general developer use.
It sounds like what Enrico is trying to do is to enable running
"dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -b" from the the top-level kernel package
as being easier than running "make bindeb-pkg". I suspect this might
be because his goal is to integrate individual kernel builds from
using Debian's hermetic build / chroot systems (e.g., sbuild, pbuilder)?
- Ted
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-15 19:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-09 9:32 [PATCH 1/4] Makefile: rules for printing kernel architecture and localversion Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-07-09 9:32 ` [PATCH 2/4] scripts: mkdebian: allow renaming generated debian/rules via env Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-07-09 9:32 ` [PATCH 3/4] scripts: checkpatch.pl: don't complain that debian/rules is executable Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-07-09 10:16 ` Joe Perches
2019-07-09 9:32 ` [PATCH 4/4] debian: add generic rule file Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-07-15 12:28 ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-07-15 18:56 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-07-15 19:12 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o [this message]
2019-07-16 8:58 ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-07-16 12:34 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-07-17 14:16 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-07-17 15:23 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-07-17 11:08 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-07-09 14:54 ` [PATCH 1/4] Makefile: rules for printing kernel architecture and localversion Randy Dunlap
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