From: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>
To: Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Nick Kossifidis <mick@ics.forth.gr>,
Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: per-cpu thoughts
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 17:35:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ+HfNigK=FiWDtNaJm5-8QP1MEa9M+=B1PnFLGTPX5oXZRm+g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <010001696d73c925-5f894cf1-aa67-4e05-8e76-123a4b4c6904-000000@email.amazonses.com>
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 16:51, Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019, Bjï¿œrn Tï¿œpel wrote:
>
> > > > Hmm, you mean AMO *with* preempt_{dis,en}able, right? (No, interrupt
> > > > disable, only preemption.)
> > >
> > > If you disable preemption then you dont need AMO anymore. In fact that is
> > > the default fallback generic implementation. Just dont do anything and you
> > > already have that solution.
> >
> > But the generic one disables interrupts, right?
>
> No it doesnt.
>
Ok, please educate me what I'm missing here.
From asm-generic/percpu.h:
#define this_cpu_generic_to_op(pcp, val, op) \
do { \
unsigned long __flags; \
raw_local_irq_save(__flags); \
raw_cpu_generic_to_op(pcp, val, op); \
raw_local_irq_restore(__flags); \
} while (0)
And the disassembly from my build does indeed have interrupt disabled regions.
Sorry for being a bit slow here. :-)
Björn
> > I believe the rational for RV is similar to ARM's; AMO+preemption
> > disable regions is *slightly* better than the generic, but not as good
> > as the IA one. Or am I missing something?>
>
> Looks to me that the better solution for ARM may be to drop its
> implementation and revert to the generic one.
>
> The overhead of AMOs is likely too high to justify using those. And the
> LC/SC overhead is also generating useless overhead.
>
> If you benchmark those then please be aware that the kernel uses
> __this_xxx ops in places where the preempt disable is not needed. The
> savings come in the form of this_xxx ops where we avoid the overhead of
> enabling and disabling preemption (which can be significant especialy
> given the scheduler actions).
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-20 19:57 per-cpu thoughts Björn Töpel
2019-02-21 15:57 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-21 16:28 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-02-21 17:24 ` Björn Töpel
2019-02-21 17:49 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-02-21 19:40 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-02-22 15:04 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-22 15:36 ` Nick Kossifidis
2019-02-22 15:56 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-22 19:47 ` Björn Töpel
2019-02-22 19:56 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-28 12:20 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-02-28 17:58 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-28 18:42 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-02-28 19:09 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-28 20:21 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-03-01 1:13 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-08 7:17 ` Björn Töpel
2019-03-11 13:22 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-03-11 14:48 ` Björn Töpel
2019-03-11 14:56 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-11 15:05 ` Björn Töpel
2019-03-11 15:26 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-03-11 16:48 ` Mark Rutland
2019-03-11 18:39 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-03-12 11:23 ` Mark Rutland
2019-03-12 16:01 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-03-12 17:34 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-12 4:26 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-12 14:21 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-03-12 17:42 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-12 17:59 ` Gary Guo
2019-03-13 18:58 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-13 20:15 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-03-22 14:51 ` Nick Kossifidis
2019-03-22 17:57 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-11 15:51 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-03-11 16:35 ` Björn Töpel [this message]
2019-03-12 4:22 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-22 19:48 ` Björn Töpel
2019-02-22 20:53 ` Nick Kossifidis
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