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From: robh+dt@kernel.org (Rob Herring)
To: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC 1/2] dt-bindings: topology: Add RISC-V cpu topology.
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:10:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_JsqJOxdE=gD4MyKuL5XZ57Z6UdM4_SU4qs26BNz6YcqM76A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-799bd6f4-e4af-481e-90d8-bdc0e30f2530@palmer-si-x1c4>

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 1:39 PM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 06:09:39 PDT (-0700), robh+dt at kernel.org wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:04 PM Atish Patra <atish.patra@wdc.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Define a RISC-V cpu topology. This is based on cpu-map in ARM world.
> >> But it doesn't need a separate thread node for defining SMT systems.
> >> Multiple cpu phandle properties can be parsed to identify the sibling
> >> hardware threads. Moreover, we do not have cluster concept in RISC-V.
> >> So package is a better word choice than cluster for RISC-V.
> >
> > There was a proposal to add package info for ARM recently. Not sure
> > what happened to that, but we don't need 2 different ways.
> >
> > There's never going to be clusters for RISC-V? What prevents that?
> > Seems shortsighted to me.
> >
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Atish Patra <atish.patra@wdc.com>
> >> ---
> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/topology.txt         | 154 +++++++++++++++++++++
> >>  1 file changed, 154 insertions(+)
> >>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/topology.txt
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/topology.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/topology.txt
> >> new file mode 100644
> >> index 00000000..96039ed3
> >> --- /dev/null
> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/topology.txt
> >> @@ -0,0 +1,154 @@
> >> +===========================================
> >> +RISC-V cpu topology binding description
> >> +===========================================
> >> +
> >> +===========================================
> >> +1 - Introduction
> >> +===========================================
> >> +
> >> +In a RISC-V system, the hierarchy of CPUs can be defined through following nodes that
> >> +are used to describe the layout of physical CPUs in the system:
> >> +
> >> +- packages
> >> +- core
> >> +
> >> +The cpu nodes (bindings defined in [1]) represent the devices that
> >> +correspond to physical CPUs and are to be mapped to the hierarchy levels.
> >> +Simultaneous multi-threading (SMT) systems can also represent their topology
> >> +by defining multiple cpu phandles inside core node. The details are explained
> >> +in paragraph 3.
> >
> > I don't see a reason to do this differently than ARM. That said, I
> > don't think the thread part is in use on ARM, so it could possibly be
> > changed.
> >
> >> +
> >> +The remainder of this document provides the topology bindings for ARM, based
> >
> > for ARM?
> >
> >> +on the Devicetree Specification, available from:
> >> +
> >> +https://www.devicetree.org/specifications/
> >> +
> >> +If not stated otherwise, whenever a reference to a cpu node phandle is made its
> >> +value must point to a cpu node compliant with the cpu node bindings as
> >> +documented in [1].
> >> +A topology description containing phandles to cpu nodes that are not compliant
> >> +with bindings standardized in [1] is therefore considered invalid.
> >> +
> >> +This cpu topology binding description is mostly based on the topology defined
> >> +in ARM [2].
> >> +===========================================
> >> +2 - cpu-topology node
> >
> > cpu-map. Why change this?
> >
> > What I would like to see is the ARM topology binding reworked to be
> > common or some good reasons why it doesn't work for RISC-V as-is.
>
> I think it would be great if CPU topologies were not a RISC-V specific thing.
> We don't really do anything different than anyone else, so it'd be great if we
> could all share the same spec and code.  Looking quickly at the ARM cpu-map
> bindings, I don't see any reason why we can't just use the same thing on RISC-V
> -- it's not quite how I'd do it, but I don't think the differences are worth
> having another implementation.  Mechanically I'm not sure how to do this:
> should there just be a "Documentation/devicetree/bindings/cpu-map.txt"?

Yes, but ".../bindings/cpu/cpu-topology.txt".

And if we need $arch extensions, they can be moved there. (Really, I'd
like to get rid of /bindings/$arch/* except for maybe a few things.)

> If everyone is OK with that then I vote we just go ahead and genericise the ARM
> "cpu-map" stuff for CPU topology.  Sharing the implementation looks fairly
> straight-forward as well.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
To: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com,
	alankao@andestech.com, Zong Li <zong@andestech.com>,
	Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Atish Patra <atish.patra@wdc.com>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] dt-bindings: topology: Add RISC-V cpu topology.
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:10:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_JsqJOxdE=gD4MyKuL5XZ57Z6UdM4_SU4qs26BNz6YcqM76A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20181105201036.m-pqG4cOvoVVrUZFMIW3fw5YbXhMrmn9NbJnQ0zCnag@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-799bd6f4-e4af-481e-90d8-bdc0e30f2530@palmer-si-x1c4>

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 1:39 PM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 06:09:39 PDT (-0700), robh+dt@kernel.org wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:04 PM Atish Patra <atish.patra@wdc.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Define a RISC-V cpu topology. This is based on cpu-map in ARM world.
> >> But it doesn't need a separate thread node for defining SMT systems.
> >> Multiple cpu phandle properties can be parsed to identify the sibling
> >> hardware threads. Moreover, we do not have cluster concept in RISC-V.
> >> So package is a better word choice than cluster for RISC-V.
> >
> > There was a proposal to add package info for ARM recently. Not sure
> > what happened to that, but we don't need 2 different ways.
> >
> > There's never going to be clusters for RISC-V? What prevents that?
> > Seems shortsighted to me.
> >
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Atish Patra <atish.patra@wdc.com>
> >> ---
> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/topology.txt         | 154 +++++++++++++++++++++
> >>  1 file changed, 154 insertions(+)
> >>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/topology.txt
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/topology.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/topology.txt
> >> new file mode 100644
> >> index 00000000..96039ed3
> >> --- /dev/null
> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/topology.txt
> >> @@ -0,0 +1,154 @@
> >> +===========================================
> >> +RISC-V cpu topology binding description
> >> +===========================================
> >> +
> >> +===========================================
> >> +1 - Introduction
> >> +===========================================
> >> +
> >> +In a RISC-V system, the hierarchy of CPUs can be defined through following nodes that
> >> +are used to describe the layout of physical CPUs in the system:
> >> +
> >> +- packages
> >> +- core
> >> +
> >> +The cpu nodes (bindings defined in [1]) represent the devices that
> >> +correspond to physical CPUs and are to be mapped to the hierarchy levels.
> >> +Simultaneous multi-threading (SMT) systems can also represent their topology
> >> +by defining multiple cpu phandles inside core node. The details are explained
> >> +in paragraph 3.
> >
> > I don't see a reason to do this differently than ARM. That said, I
> > don't think the thread part is in use on ARM, so it could possibly be
> > changed.
> >
> >> +
> >> +The remainder of this document provides the topology bindings for ARM, based
> >
> > for ARM?
> >
> >> +on the Devicetree Specification, available from:
> >> +
> >> +https://www.devicetree.org/specifications/
> >> +
> >> +If not stated otherwise, whenever a reference to a cpu node phandle is made its
> >> +value must point to a cpu node compliant with the cpu node bindings as
> >> +documented in [1].
> >> +A topology description containing phandles to cpu nodes that are not compliant
> >> +with bindings standardized in [1] is therefore considered invalid.
> >> +
> >> +This cpu topology binding description is mostly based on the topology defined
> >> +in ARM [2].
> >> +===========================================
> >> +2 - cpu-topology node
> >
> > cpu-map. Why change this?
> >
> > What I would like to see is the ARM topology binding reworked to be
> > common or some good reasons why it doesn't work for RISC-V as-is.
>
> I think it would be great if CPU topologies were not a RISC-V specific thing.
> We don't really do anything different than anyone else, so it'd be great if we
> could all share the same spec and code.  Looking quickly at the ARM cpu-map
> bindings, I don't see any reason why we can't just use the same thing on RISC-V
> -- it's not quite how I'd do it, but I don't think the differences are worth
> having another implementation.  Mechanically I'm not sure how to do this:
> should there just be a "Documentation/devicetree/bindings/cpu-map.txt"?

Yes, but ".../bindings/cpu/cpu-topology.txt".

And if we need $arch extensions, they can be moved there. (Really, I'd
like to get rid of /bindings/$arch/* except for maybe a few things.)

> If everyone is OK with that then I vote we just go ahead and genericise the ARM
> "cpu-map" stuff for CPU topology.  Sharing the implementation looks fairly
> straight-forward as well.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-05 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-01 23:04 [RFC 0/2] Add RISC-V cpu topology Atish Patra
2018-11-01 23:04 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-01 23:04 ` [RFC 1/2] dt-bindings: topology: " Atish Patra
2018-11-01 23:04   ` Atish Patra
2018-11-02 13:09   ` Rob Herring
2018-11-02 13:09     ` Rob Herring
2018-11-02 13:31     ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-02 13:31       ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-02 15:11       ` Rob Herring
2018-11-02 15:11         ` Rob Herring
2018-11-02 15:50         ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-02 15:50           ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-02 20:53           ` Atish Patra
2018-11-02 20:53             ` Atish Patra
2018-11-02 21:08             ` Rob Herring
2018-11-02 21:08               ` Rob Herring
2018-11-02 20:34     ` Atish Patra
2018-11-02 20:34       ` Atish Patra
2018-11-05 19:38     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-05 19:38       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-05 20:10       ` Rob Herring [this message]
2018-11-05 20:10         ` Rob Herring
2018-11-06  0:12         ` Atish Patra
2018-11-06  0:12           ` Atish Patra
2018-11-06 10:03       ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-06 10:03         ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-06 11:37         ` Mark Rutland
2018-11-06 11:37           ` Mark Rutland
2018-11-01 23:04 ` [RFC 2/2] RISC-V: Introduce " Atish Patra
2018-11-01 23:04   ` Atish Patra
2018-11-02 18:58 ` [RFC 0/2] Add RISC-V " Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-02 18:58   ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-02 21:14   ` Atish Patra
2018-11-02 21:14     ` Atish Patra
2018-11-02 22:18     ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-02 22:18       ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-06 14:13   ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-06 14:13     ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-06 15:26     ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-06 15:26       ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-06 15:50       ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-06 15:50         ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-06 16:20       ` Mark Rutland
2018-11-06 16:20         ` Mark Rutland
2018-11-07  2:31         ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-07  2:31           ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-07 12:06           ` Mark Rutland
2018-11-07 12:06             ` Mark Rutland
2018-11-08 13:45             ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-08 13:45               ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-08 15:54               ` Mark Rutland
2018-11-08 15:54                 ` Mark Rutland
2018-11-09  3:55                 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-09  3:55                   ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-07 12:28           ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-07 12:28             ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-08 14:52             ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-08 14:52               ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-08 16:48               ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-08 16:48                 ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-09  2:36                 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-09  2:36                   ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-09 12:33                   ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-09 12:33                     ` Sudeep Holla

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