From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH crypto-stable] crypto: arch/lib - limit simd usage to PAGE_SIZE chunks
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:28:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200422112831.5352gcpo42jgz2dj@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXGRNCEkTFPGM03h1N+HtOiLVMcm89UJYMZcuWjyFAp5Ag@mail.gmail.com>
On 2020-04-22 09:23:34 [+0200], Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> My memory is a bit fuzzy here. I remember talking to the linux-rt guys
> about what delay is actually acceptable, which was a lot higher than I
> had thought based on their initial reports about scheduling blackouts
> on arm64 due to preemption remaining disabled for too long. I intended
> to revisit this with more accurate bounds but then I apparently
> forgot.
>
> So SIMD chacha20 and SIMD poly1305 both run in <5 cycles per bytes,
> both on x86 and ARM. If we take 20 microseconds as a ballpark upper
> bound for how long preemption may be disabled, that gives us ~4000
> bytes of ChaCha20 or Poly1305 on a hypothetical 1 GHz core.
>
> So I think 4 KB is indeed a reasonable quantum of work here. Only
> PAGE_SIZE is not necessarily equal to 4 KB on arm64, so we should use
> SZ_4K instead.
>
> *However*, at the time, the report was triggered by the fact that we
> were keeping SIMD enabled across calls into the scatterwalk API, which
> may call kmalloc()/kfree() etc. There is no need for that anymore, now
> that the FPU begin/end routines all have been optimized to restore the
> userland SIMD state lazily.
The 20usec sound reasonable. The other concern was memory allocation
within the preempt-disable section. If this is no longer the case,
perfect.
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-22 11:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20200420075711.2385190-1-Jason@zx2c4.com>
[not found] ` <20200422040415.GA2881@sol.localdomain>
2020-04-22 7:23 ` [PATCH crypto-stable] crypto: arch/lib - limit simd usage to PAGE_SIZE chunks Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-22 7:38 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-04-22 11:28 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2020-04-22 19:35 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-04-22 20:03 ` [PATCH crypto-stable v2] crypto: arch - limit simd usage to 4k chunks Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-04-22 22:39 ` Eric Biggers
2020-04-22 23:09 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-04-22 23:18 ` [PATCH crypto-stable v3 1/2] crypto: arch/lib " Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-04-22 23:18 ` [PATCH crypto-stable v3 2/2] crypto: arch/nhpoly1305 - process in explicit " Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-04-23 20:39 ` Eric Biggers
2020-04-23 7:18 ` [PATCH crypto-stable v3 1/2] crypto: arch/lib - limit simd usage to " Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-23 7:40 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-04-23 7:47 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-23 18:42 ` Greg KH
2020-04-23 18:47 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-23 20:23 ` Eric Biggers
2020-04-23 20:49 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-28 23:09 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-04-30 5:30 ` Herbert Xu
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