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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Runge <dave@sleepmap.de>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Daniel Wagner <dwagner@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] blk-mq: Don't IPI requests on PREEMPT_RT
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:05:15 +0100
Message-ID: <87eelj1tx0.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201027160742.GA19073@infradead.org>

On Tue, Oct 27 2020 at 16:07, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:11:02AM +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
>> Right. I found this David Runge's log:
>
> True, ->bi_end_io instances can do a lot of things as long as they
> are hardirq safe.
>
> And in the end the IPI case isn't the super fast path anyway, as it
> means we don't use a queue per CPU.
>
> Is there a way to raise a softirq and preferably place it on a given
> CPU without our IPI dance?  That should be a win-win situation for
> everyone.

Not really. Softirq pending bits are strictly per cpu and we don't have
locking or atomics to set them remotely. Even if we had that, then you'd
still need a mechanism to make sure that the remote CPU actually
processes them. So you'd still need an IPI of some sorts.

Thanks,

        tglx





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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-21 17:50 5.9.1-rt18: issues with Firewire card on AMD hardware David Runge
2020-10-23 11:04 ` [PATCH RFC] blk-mq: Don't IPI requests on PREEMPT_RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-23 11:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-23 13:52     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-27  9:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-27 10:11         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-27 16:07           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-27 17:05             ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2020-10-27 17:23               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-27 17:59                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-27 20:58                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-28  6:56                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-28 14:12                     ` [PATCH 1/3] blk-mq: Don't complete on a remote CPU in force threaded mode Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-28 14:12                       ` [PATCH 2/3] blk-mq: Always complete remote completions requests in softirq Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-28 14:12                       ` [PATCH 3/3] blk-mq: Use llist_head for blk_cpu_done Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-28 14:44                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-28 14:47                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-29 13:12                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-29 14:05                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-29 14:56                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-29 14:57                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-29 20:03                                 ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-10-29 21:01                                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-29 21:07                                     ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-10-31 10:41                                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-31 15:00                                         ` Jens Axboe
2020-10-31 15:01                                           ` Jens Axboe
2020-10-31 18:09                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-02  9:55                                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-11-02 18:12                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-04 19:15                                               ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-11-06 15:23                                               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-28 10:04                 ` [PATCH RFC] blk-mq: Don't IPI requests on PREEMPT_RT Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-26  0:37 ` 5.9.1-rt18: issues with Firewire card on AMD hardware David Runge

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