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From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Input: document inhibiting
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 09:52:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8ebf502e-855d-6a6b-9c7b-d96d5e519d82@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200617101822.8558-1-andrzej.p@collabora.com>

On 6/17/20 3:18 AM, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> Document inhibiting input devices and its relation to being
> a wakeup source.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>
> ---
> v1..v2:
> 
> - Addressed editorial comments from Randy
> - Added a paragraph by Hans
> 
>  Documentation/input/input-programming.rst | 40 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 40 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst b/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst
> index 45a4c6e05e39..7432315cc829 100644
> --- a/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst
> @@ -164,6 +164,46 @@ disconnects. Calls to both callbacks are serialized.
>  The open() callback should return a 0 in case of success or any nonzero value
>  in case of failure. The close() callback (which is void) must always succeed.
>  
> +Inhibiting input devices
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +Inhibiting a device means ignoring input events from it. As such it is about maintaining
> +relationships with input handlers - either already existing relationships, or relationships
> +to be established while the device is in inhibited state.
> +
> +If a device is inhibited, no input handler will receive events from it.
> +
> +The fact that nobody wants events from the device is exploited further, by calling device's
> +close() (if there are users) and open() (if there are users) on inhibit and uninhibit
> +operations, respectively. Indeed, the meaning of close() is to stop providing events
> +to the input core and that of open() is to start providing events to the input core.
> +
> +Calling the device's close() method on inhibit (if there are users) allows the driver
> +to save power. Either by directly powering down the device or by releasing the
> +runtime-pm reference it got in open() when the driver is using runtime-pm.
> +
> +Inhibiting and uninhibiting are orthogonal to opening and closing the device by input
> +handlers. Userspace might want to inhibit a device in anticipation before any handler is
> +positively matched against it.
> +
> +Inhibiting and uninhibiting are orthogonal to device's being a wakeup source, too. Being a
> +wakeup source plays a role when the system is sleeping, not when the system is operating.
> +How drivers should program their interaction between inhibiting, sleeping and being a wakeup
> +source is driver-specific.
> +
> +Taking the analogy with the network devices - bringing a network interface down doesn't mean
> +that it should be impossible be wake the system up on LAN through this interface. So, there
> +may be input drivers which should be considered wakeup sources even when inhibited. Actually,
> +in many I2C input devices their interrupt is declared a wakeup interrupt and its handling
> +happens in driver's core, which is not aware of input-specific inhibit (nor should it be).
> +Composite devices containing several interfaces can be inhibited on a per-interface basis and
> +e.g. inhibiting one interface shouldn't affect the device's capability of being a wakeup source.
> +
> +If a device is to be considered a wakeup source while inhibited, special care must be taken when
> +programming its suspend(), as it might need to call device's open(). Depending on what close()
> +means for the device in question, not opening() it before going to sleep might make it
> +impossible to provide any wakeup events. The device is going to sleep anyway.
> +
>  Basic event types
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  
> 

Reviewed-by: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>

Thanks.

-- 
~Randy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-17 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200506002746.GB89269@dtor-ws>
2020-05-15 16:49 ` [PATCHv2 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 16:51   ` [PATCHv2 1/7] Input: add input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 16:52   ` [PATCHv2 4/7] iio: adc: exynos: Use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 16:52   ` [PATCHv2 6/7] Input: Add "inhibited" property Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-15 18:19   ` [PATCHv2 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Hans de Goede
2020-05-17 22:55     ` Peter Hutterer
2020-05-18  2:40       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-05-18  7:36         ` Hans de Goede
2020-05-22 15:35         ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-27  6:13           ` Peter Hutterer
2020-05-18 10:48     ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-18 12:24       ` Hans de Goede
2020-05-18 13:49         ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-18 14:23           ` Hans de Goede
2020-05-19  9:02             ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-05-19  9:36               ` Hans de Goede
2020-05-27  6:34                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-02 16:56                   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-02 17:52                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-02 18:50                       ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-02 20:19                         ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-03 13:07                           ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-03 17:38                             ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-03 17:54                               ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-03 19:37                                 ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-04  7:28                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-05 17:33                                     ` [PATCH v3 " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 1/7] Input: add input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 2/7] Input: use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 3/7] ACPI: button: Access input device's users under appropriate mutex Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 4/7] ACPI: button: Use input_device_enabled() helper Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 5/7] iio: adc: exynos: Use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 19:49                                         ` Michał Mirosław
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 6/7] platform/x86: thinkpad_acpi: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33                                       ` [PATCH v3 7/7] Input: Add "inhibited" property Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:41                                         ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-08 11:22                                           ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 1/7] Input: add input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-03  6:25                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 2/7] Input: use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-03  6:26                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                                               ` <CGME20201207133237eucas1p26f8484944760a14e51dc7353ed33cd28@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2020-12-07 13:32                                                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-12-07 15:50                                                   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-08 10:05                                                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-12-09  6:37                                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-11  7:09                                                         ` [PATCH] Input: cyapa - do not call input_device_enabled from power mode handler Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-11  8:22                                                           ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-12-11  8:31                                                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 3/7] ACPI: button: Access input device's users under appropriate mutex Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-24 15:00                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-25  5:23                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-25 10:55                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-05  5:08                                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 4/7] ACPI: button: Use input_device_enabled() helper Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-25  5:24                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-10-05  5:06                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 5/7] iio: adc: exynos: Use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-10  1:28                                               ` Michał Mirosław
2020-06-10  7:52                                                 ` [FIXED PATCH " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 6/7] platform/x86: thinkpad_acpi: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-08 11:22                                             ` [PATCH v4 7/7] Input: Add "inhibited" property Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-10-05 18:10                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-10-06 13:04                                                 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-10-07  1:11                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-10-07  1:12                                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-03  6:26                                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-10  9:49                                             ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Hans de Goede
2020-06-10 10:38                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-10 13:12                                                 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-10 13:21                                                   ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-10 13:41                                                     ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-12  8:30                                                       ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-12  8:47                                                         ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-16 17:29                                                         ` [PATCH] Input: document inhibiting Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-16 17:38                                                           ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-17  7:44                                                           ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-17 10:18                                                             ` [PATCH v2] " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-17 10:21                                                               ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-17 16:52                                                               ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2020-06-23 13:35                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2020-12-03  6:27                                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-10 14:01                                                     ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-10 13:52                                                 ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-10 18:28                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-12  8:14                                                   ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-12  8:17                                             ` Hans de Goede
2020-08-03 14:40                                               ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-07 20:24                                       ` [PATCH v3 " Pavel Machek
2020-06-08  5:37                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08  9:28                                           ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz

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