From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3E5C433F5 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 13:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901AE6187A for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 13:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1351456AbhI3Nba (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Sep 2021 09:31:30 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:49932 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1351412AbhI3Nb3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Sep 2021 09:31:29 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-x436.google.com (mail-wr1-x436.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::436]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1EF7C06176C for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 06:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x436.google.com with SMTP id t8so10131419wri.1 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 06:29:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to; bh=q+R3lw9hSs/DZNzD1ywHyamm1IrGhxmkV4ENbV1GCU4=; b=DgISTWDu6rOHfzRjV6Qlml3/7p6txDssydTajODz+GlRBwZnnZJ+mHqxja6SLqqzZS eyqevG/RTJ1e19LvzUSviCvcRdY/ZQlLzVjdheF0j9oYG2VCjjxYzy70fFH6h8wQFIl1 heZTwo8Ij6lQSgsdYl1dZiwV3X78qZHJLVBF7Te55QST9l020nZl0zdexD6cQxRMEf6W SRIUEGew9SLXCrM/mV3q/VEp2npSKkXBbZ5+s2TfsplI/1q6wc/x7KyW1mrI5x5IDs/H NBJzxCeq6cVp7HZB2iCl43ejKQHiNBQy43JZ3VV5ezx4T/8upAw3Pc/u2fcrSEWOZw/o CpiA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to; bh=q+R3lw9hSs/DZNzD1ywHyamm1IrGhxmkV4ENbV1GCU4=; b=Ko4Sxeb4kBqUaziI+XKaGhGybhca0rLbFpmyIUWWyG1Aebsj6iuH65WPv+Tb+yVWYT UrovwU53QAkGjgd1M4/AsTOkAYlKhLTqqWes/tL1OCilTazxQ0Qr9g+HoDNKmJyV9DhD uJGHEOfVoAAeGIXxU/sEPK5lPeqq5HpFxDPVH1dx+KHBNoQWZ/Rybp3UReTaGlAEla00 ftxDrdjGm3HEQc5je6Og4YChESREhHKFyui/0wIBpUT5DenrcDgZywa4E9+RuEtoSEeK uP/v49+FofES+EBAyBzg7Fa8fNnrfqk8OAPCrR6FWyRcQu4LD0K7Hf/uV8WMnyl3l4gZ 0f2Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530nNawvZWr9kLFZ1JoGHnt7nMW/fxikAK9RWYMU4fEYMg4TLAYR +qlS8dsLRtc5XDOu81ligpC7tg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy/y/6uR/KPQ8dQ/+hV2n00qqTbyI2pfOM4zKq4a5jrPB98oGnv1D/dr/8czG2Kuq8YEDugGw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:eac8:: with SMTP id o8mr5785614wrn.273.1633008585451; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 06:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from google.com ([95.148.6.233]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x21sm4825619wmc.14.2021.09.30.06.29.44 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 30 Sep 2021 06:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 14:29:42 +0100 From: Lee Jones To: Krzysztof Kozlowski Cc: Will McVicker , Russell King , Catalin Marinas , Will Deacon , Michael Turquette , Stephen Boyd , Sylwester Nawrocki , Tomasz Figa , Chanwoo Choi , Linus Walleij , Alessandro Zummo , Alexandre Belloni , John Stultz , Thomas Gleixner , Geert Uytterhoeven , Saravana Kannan , "Cc: Android Kernel" , Linux ARM , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-samsung-soc , linux-clk , linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann , Olof Johansson Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/12] arm64: Kconfig: Update ARCH_EXYNOS select configs Message-ID: References: <20210928235635.1348330-1-willmcvicker@google.com> <7766faf8-2dd1-6525-3b9a-8ba790c29cff@canonical.com> <72d27a82-9d4d-1f91-bd1f-ebead3b75ffa@canonical.com> <8d260548-176e-d76b-6f05-d4d02ddd4f67@canonical.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <8d260548-176e-d76b-6f05-d4d02ddd4f67@canonical.com> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 30 Sep 2021, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > On 30/09/2021 14:39, Lee Jones wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Sep 2021, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > > > >> On 30/09/2021 11:23, Lee Jones wrote: > >>> [0] Full disclosure: part of my role at Linaro is to keep the Android > >>> kernel running as close to Mainline as possible and encourage/push the > >>> upstream-first mantra, hence my involvement with this and other sets. > >>> I assure you all intentions are good and honourable. If you haven't > >>> already seen it, please see Todd's most recent update on the goals and > >>> status of GKI: > >>> > >>> Article: https://tinyurl.com/saaen3sp > >>> Video: https://youtu.be/O_lCFGinFPM > >>> > >> > >> Side topic, why this patchset is in your scope or Will's/Google's scope? > >> Just drop it from Android main kernel, it will not be your problem. I > >> mean, really, you don't need this patchset in your tree at all. The only > >> platform which needs it, the only platform which will loose something > >> will be one specific vendor. Therefore this will be an incentive for > >> them to join both discussions and upstream development. :) > > > > How would they fix this besides upstreaming support for unreleased > > work-in-progress H/W? > > > > Haven't I explained this several times already? :) > > Either that way or the same as Will's doing but that's not my question. > I understand you flush the queue of your GKI patches to be closer to > upstream. Reduce the backlog/burden. you can achieve your goal by simply > dropping such patch and making it not your problem. :) git reset --hard mainline/master # job done - tea break :) Seriously though, we wish to encourage the use of GKI so all vendors can enjoy the benefits of more easily updateable/secure code-bases. I can't see how pushing back on seamlessly benign changes would benefit them or anyone else. -- Lee Jones [李琼斯] Senior Technical Lead - Developer Services Linaro.org │ Open source software for Arm SoCs Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog