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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
Cc: keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>,
	corbet@lwn.net, dhowells@redhat.com, jejb@linux.ibm.com,
	zohar@linux.ibm.com, jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	tee-dev@lists.linaro.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 6/7] doc: keys: Document usage of TEE based Trusted Keys
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 18:36:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190614153622.GG11241@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFA6WYP7qi_NBRUDBhcEAEzJY-iFvJdXqtCtgQxqAvPSXDjEng@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 11:07:23AM +0530, Sumit Garg wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 21:04, Jarkko Sakkinen
> <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 04:00:32PM +0530, Sumit Garg wrote:
> > > Provide documentation for usage of TEE based Trusted Keys via existing
> > > user-space "keyctl" utility. Also, document various use-cases.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
> >
> > Sorry missed this patch. Anyway, I don't think we want multiple trusted
> > keys subsystems. You have to fix the existing one if you care to get
> > these changes in. There is no really other way around this.
> >
> 
> I understand your point.
> 
> When I initially looked at trusted key implementation, it seemed to be
> tightly coupled to use TPM device. So I implemented a parallel
> implementation to get initial feedback (functionality-wise) on this
> new approach.

Yeah, I completely get this. My feedback this is: we can definitely
consider TEE based trusted keys, and I know that trusted.ko is a mess,
but still that is the only right long-term path. Think about the
positive side: if you as a side-effect can make it cleaner and more
versatile, your patch set will improve the quality of the kernel as a
whole i.e. you benefit larger audience than just TEE user base :-)

> I will work on abstraction of trusted key apis to use either approach.
> But is it fine with you if I send if I send a separate RFC patch for
> abstraction and later once reviewed I will incorporate that patch in
> this patch-set.
> 
> It will be really helpful if you could help to test that abstraction
> patch with a real TPM device as I doesn't posses one to test.

I can, yes.

/Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-14 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-13 10:30 [RFC 0/7] Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys support Sumit Garg
2019-06-13 10:30 ` [RFC 1/7] tee: optee: allow kernel pages to register as shm Sumit Garg
2019-06-13 15:12   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-13 15:17     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-13 15:17       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-14  5:12         ` Sumit Garg
2019-06-14  8:15   ` Jens Wiklander
2019-06-13 10:30 ` [RFC 2/7] tee: enable support to register kernel memory Sumit Garg
2019-06-13 15:20   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-14  5:13     ` Sumit Garg
2019-06-14  8:16   ` Jens Wiklander
2019-06-13 10:30 ` [RFC 3/7] tee: add private login method for kernel clients Sumit Garg
2019-07-08 15:39   ` Jens Wiklander
2019-07-09  5:56     ` Sumit Garg
2019-07-09  7:03       ` Jens Wiklander
2019-07-09  9:36         ` Sumit Garg
2019-07-29  7:08           ` Jens Wiklander
2019-07-29 13:13             ` Sumit Garg
2019-06-13 10:30 ` [RFC 4/7] KEYS: trusted: Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys Sumit Garg
2019-06-13 15:32   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-14  5:43     ` Sumit Garg
2019-06-13 10:30 ` [RFC 5/7] KEYS: encrypted: Allow TEE based trusted master keys Sumit Garg
2019-06-13 10:30 ` [RFC 6/7] doc: keys: Document usage of TEE based Trusted Keys Sumit Garg
2019-06-13 15:34   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-14  5:37     ` Sumit Garg
2019-06-14 15:36       ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2019-06-13 10:30 ` [RFC 7/7] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for " Sumit Garg
2019-06-13 16:40 ` [RFC 0/7] Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys support Casey Schaufler
2019-06-14  0:03   ` Mimi Zohar
2019-06-14  8:17     ` Sumit Garg
2019-06-14  5:58   ` Sumit Garg
2019-07-08 12:41 ` Sumit Garg
2019-07-08 16:31   ` Jens Wiklander
2019-07-09  5:58     ` Sumit Garg

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