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From: Alexey Gladkov <gladkov.alexey@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 10/11] docs: proc: add documentation for "hidepid=4" and "subset=pidfs" options and new mount behavior
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 17:03:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200212160339.q6pm5zmjy5mfnvcr@comp-core-i7-2640m-0182e6> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWOXXYy5fo+D0wVBEviyk38ACqvO5Fep_oTEY6+UrS=4g@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:29:23AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 7:06 AM Alexey Gladkov <gladkov.alexey@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Alexey Gladkov <gladkov.alexey@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt | 53 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 53 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt b/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
> > index 99ca040e3f90..4741fd092f36 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
> > @@ -50,6 +50,8 @@ Table of Contents
> >    4    Configuring procfs
> >    4.1  Mount options
> >
> > +  5    Filesystem behavior
> > +
> >  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  Preface
> >  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > @@ -2021,6 +2023,7 @@ The following mount options are supported:
> >
> >         hidepid=        Set /proc/<pid>/ access mode.
> >         gid=            Set the group authorized to learn processes information.
> > +       subset=         Show only the specified subset of procfs.
> >
> >  hidepid=0 means classic mode - everybody may access all /proc/<pid>/ directories
> >  (default).
> > @@ -2042,6 +2045,56 @@ information about running processes, whether some daemon runs with elevated
> >  privileges, whether other user runs some sensitive program, whether other users
> >  run any program at all, etc.
> >
> > +hidepid=4 means that procfs should only contain /proc/<pid>/ directories
> > +that the caller can ptrace.
> 
> I have a couple of minor nits here.
> 
> First, perhaps we could stop using magic numbers and use words.
> hidepid=ptraceable is actually comprehensible, whereas hidepid=4
> requires looking up what '4' means.

Do you mean to add string aliases for the values?

hidepid=0 == hidepid=default
hidepid=1 == hidepid=restrict
hidepid=2 == hidepid=ownonly
hidepid=4 == hidepid=ptraceable

Something like that ?

> Second, there is PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH and PTRACE_MODE_READ.  Which is it?

This is PTRACE_MODE_READ.

> > +
> >  gid= defines a group authorized to learn processes information otherwise
> >  prohibited by hidepid=.  If you use some daemon like identd which needs to learn
> >  information about processes information, just add identd to this group.
> 
> How is this better than just creating an entirely separate mount a
> different hidepid and a different gid owning it?

I'm not sure I understand the question. Now you cannot have two proc with
different hidepid in the same pid_namespace. 

> In any event,
> usually gid= means that this gid is the group owner of inodes.  Let's
> call it something different.  gid_override_hidepid might be credible.
> But it's also really weird -- do different groups really see different
> contents when they read a directory?

If you use hidepid=2,gid=wheel options then the user is not in the wheel
group will see only their processes and the user in the wheel group will
see whole tree. The gid= is a kind of whitelist for hidepid=1|2.

-- 
Rgrds, legion


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-12 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-10 15:05 [PATCH v8 00/11] proc: modernize proc to support multiple private instances Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 01/11] proc: Rename struct proc_fs_info to proc_fs_opts Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 02/11] proc: add proc_fs_info struct to store proc information Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 03/11] proc: move /proc/{self|thread-self} dentries to proc_fs_info Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 18:23   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-02-12 15:00     ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 04/11] proc: move hide_pid, pid_gid from pid_namespace " Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 05/11] proc: add helpers to set and get proc hidepid and gid mount options Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 18:30   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-02-12 14:57     ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 06/11] proc: support mounting procfs instances inside same pid namespace Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 07/11] proc: flush task dcache entries from all procfs instances Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 17:46   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-10 19:23     ` Al Viro
2020-02-11  1:36   ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-11  4:01     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-12 14:49     ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-12 14:59       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-12 17:08         ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-12 18:45         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-12 19:16           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-12 19:49             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-12 20:03               ` Al Viro
2020-02-12 20:35                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-12 20:38                   ` Al Viro
2020-02-12 20:41                     ` Al Viro
2020-02-12 21:02                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-12 21:46                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-13  0:48                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-13  4:37                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-13  5:55                               ` Al Viro
2020-02-13 21:30                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-13 22:23                                   ` Al Viro
2020-02-13 22:47                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-14 14:15                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-14  3:48                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-20 20:46                               ` [PATCH 0/7] proc: Dentry flushing without proc_mnt Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-20 20:47                                 ` [PATCH 1/7] proc: Rename in proc_inode rename sysctl_inodes sibling_inodes Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-20 20:48                                 ` [PATCH 2/7] proc: Generalize proc_sys_prune_dcache into proc_prune_siblings_dcache Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-20 20:49                                 ` [PATCH 3/7] proc: Mov rcu_read_(lock|unlock) in proc_prune_siblings_dcache Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-20 22:33                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-20 20:49                                 ` [PATCH 4/7] proc: Use d_invalidate " Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-20 22:43                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-20 22:54                                   ` Al Viro
2020-02-20 23:00                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-20 23:03                                     ` Al Viro
2020-02-20 23:39                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-20 20:51                                 ` [PATCH 5/7] proc: Clear the pieces of proc_inode that proc_evict_inode cares about Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-20 20:52                                 ` [PATCH 6/7] proc: Use a list of inodes to flush from proc Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-20 20:52                                 ` [PATCH 7/7] proc: Ensure we see the exit of each process tid exactly once Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-21 16:50                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-02-22 15:46                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-20 23:02                                 ` [PATCH 0/7] proc: Dentry flushing without proc_mnt Linus Torvalds
2020-02-20 23:07                                   ` Al Viro
2020-02-20 23:37                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-24 16:25                                 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] " Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-24 16:26                                   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] proc: Rename in proc_inode rename sysctl_inodes sibling_inodes Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-24 16:27                                   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] proc: Generalize proc_sys_prune_dcache into proc_prune_siblings_dcache Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-24 16:27                                   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] proc: In proc_prune_siblings_dcache cache an aquired super block Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-24 16:28                                   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] proc: Use d_invalidate in proc_prune_siblings_dcache Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-24 16:28                                   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] proc: Clear the pieces of proc_inode that proc_evict_inode cares about Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-24 16:29                                   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] proc: Use a list of inodes to flush from proc Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-28 20:17                                   ` [PATCH 0/3] proc: Actually honor the mount options Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-28 20:18                                     ` [PATCH 1/3] uml: Don't consult current to find the proc_mnt in mconsole_proc Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-28 20:18                                     ` [PATCH 2/3] uml: Create a private mount of proc for mconsole Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-28 20:30                                       ` Christian Brauner
2020-02-28 21:28                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-28 21:59                                           ` Christian Brauner
2020-02-28 20:19                                     ` [PATCH 3/3] proc: Remove the now unnecessary internal mount of proc Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-28 20:39                                       ` Christian Brauner
2020-02-28 21:40                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-28 22:34                                     ` [PATCH 4/3] pid: Improve the comment about waiting in zap_pid_ns_processes Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-29  2:59                                       ` Christian Brauner
2020-02-14  3:49                     ` [PATCH v8 07/11] proc: flush task dcache entries from all procfs instances Eric W. Biederman
2020-02-12 19:47           ` Al Viro
2020-02-11 22:45   ` Al Viro
2020-02-12 14:26     ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 08/11] proc: instantiate only pids that we can ptrace on 'hidepid=4' mount option Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 16:29   ` Jordan Glover
2020-02-12 14:34     ` Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 09/11] proc: add option to mount only a pids subset Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 10/11] docs: proc: add documentation for "hidepid=4" and "subset=pidfs" options and new mount behavior Alexey Gladkov
2020-02-10 18:29   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-02-12 16:03     ` Alexey Gladkov [this message]
2020-02-10 15:05 ` [PATCH v8 11/11] proc: Move hidepid values to uapi as they are user interface to mount Alexey Gladkov

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