From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A516C43387 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 18:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97122146F for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 18:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yahoo.com header.i=@yahoo.com header.b="YKfbQ153" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728229AbeL2SeZ (ORCPT ); Sat, 29 Dec 2018 13:34:25 -0500 Received: from sonic301-38.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.184.207]:46819 "EHLO sonic301-38.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727764AbeL2SeZ (ORCPT ); Sat, 29 Dec 2018 13:34:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1546108463; bh=ZgjrlLp7GmcYyFnk7yxZClNQSO1PLCovYVtYIkaSkpg=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=YKfbQ153r+H9fGaF6UGTsxTplsB/ioUM9XEW31CziWQfSijEBaCcSkewhwWuBkPaSqbwfp2uYYkTLdul9+w0NmN7FeLf/4+TPte8GQkvZe77jywbK1tY9YpC82tLx4V2alzgMIjJBwCt9NY7Z9nbKEVlCBybhdAInrXIYHTTXK0b3aHidHcOCs8O9O+wv/womqP+Ok5ZSZRDYX6CjfgIns6fpPZF7lajDAb6ulDLV+mTTBg4LKdus7xW9kH4aCIMVoXCOTWEtRTmdkz2oI953VP8Boqw96GzRaRobu2woHzFLGTfgrJPRPaLyYOdSIlbqtICtcLfB//WEUtnOt5W5w== X-YMail-OSG: 0PeUPgQVM1ndho2oWI.tcuN2r1KqXqNI6OtU2a5VLlJmS6zu.rpr2V4NEUqvj4K Xv_1fxrEHoL5EzEiVT2lIG9L5PsmZDEwOhxs3213UJa1wF4O9_w4kB2U_zJjxTXCAWuJvhgbl.QS aTnfw2z6u6WGv554ihvBa7Lz3G31CZl9YnTZQFA9HQU1izda9U9AMUHbBm1ufDAbLig0b2nUI5gT Jj6DEH3x83qTuyeEL3lv6sLQzQomdTDVV8acgprEjwefieenggajThyCtYw5whW_W6hxR9VZc_8Z PFq0HLrY2hgSe_94gz9aeD_2f3nwYyP8e.DIC1Ozj3oB4MidUfiVHzL5J0snGVABfNVFR73x.Kxw oh6CnzQyZLrzCyt0M_lQHbMqUVgNYQ3DdHXKv9f6.CTV5wmIkhzHSDgumTPzZfoYAZQScL5bNc4j 4DjOitTf_hERpNNFrsefthYl32Tw5umsn4Fvh.VEGMnV2AVexc0cXj3gDxVqQCPxi6fGCr2BmMND zlk_2yEs3qISMBqEZ1VZhHWlfKcbdoXt33Tm2hLZ0YxZwirCkXY5a6XIFotGTeClgRQIQDp9DtBL uRTssqTsG6nmjsPS86eiwI4iRajDnPcxvh8zp71ObzvMtBOX5c3iprVzQwHh8wSzn6pLwz1VnMn3 _dDAc9o9sTXRJLsbH53AdROyRblP83NPB6r0sbcJw_7orcUkNWCGUxhebr7mJTL2mEvNzM8y0Xqe NPuqPvhXPdInzlfj7Qz8XlxK3iJ.eXaCoCf2Rw0Kf9X3aNhGFmmiZZ_p37YfiKlWIyaAKrr_VSLQ VRcYyvzjA_pYKDuTU0q8F.TU6S8HH.cW.XqmqcTPqR8LoDn84zJm6MKV496uPzKFCTfTRgDisS_p GYNCikcu44omMD_q6aW3RX19cTUhXqJUdBl1fJdfePRocXf55Ofb74SYw3xGYavwbX2MFehen5zI j.rsIR8hXmwZA1wD2GrJ24o69TllJt.4z0ZFXjC.AHUeT63FGMBmpa9q88tqJyI2lwH3nd363Ju2 lwZgKNlyl_IMshIAd3jczUNbNddyEp6JsaXGYuBcUr_AXqIKFkINOZaXsvupIrVfVpjvws5AOhAY PZnBWbIB9feHe1eVHOrOcpmKcH6g- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 18:34:23 +0000 Received: from c-67-169-65-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net (EHLO [192.168.0.105]) ([67.169.65.224]) by smtp423.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 9d48a13f66d8cb949f3d9195969ad350; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 18:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] security: general updates for v4.21 To: Linus Torvalds , James Morris Cc: Linux List Kernel Mailing , linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, Mimi Zohar , Jarkko Sakkinen References: From: Casey Schaufler Message-ID: <45d180c5-a174-7eef-9e23-83b819f8abd6@schaufler-ca.com> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 10:34:18 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Sender: owner-linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: On 12/28/2018 8:15 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 8:09 PM James Morris wrote: >> Yep, I understand what you mean. I can't find the discussion from several >> years ago, but developers asked to be able to work with more current >> kernels, and I recall you saying that if you want to do this, merge to a >> specific -rc tag at least. > If people really want it, maybe the merge can state that explicit > thing, as it is I'm trying to push back on empty merges that don't > explain why they even exist. > > Linus The security tree tends to get changed from multiple directions, most of which aren't based out of the security sub-system. The mount rework from David is an excellent example. It gets hit just about any time there's a significant VFS or networking change. Keeping it current has helped find issues much earlier in the process.