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From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Damian Tometzki <linux_dti@icloud.com>,
	linux-integrity <linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org, kristen@linux.intel.com,
	deneen.t.dock@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/17] module: Prevent module removal racing with text_poke()
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 17:15:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69EA2C81-826F-46BA-8D80-241C39B0B70B@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e865e051-be79-adce-7275-72abf2173bdb@zytor.com>

> On Jan 17, 2019, at 3:58 PM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> 
> On 1/16/19 11:54 PM, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 16:32:59 -0800
>> Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
>>> 
>>> It seems dangerous to allow code modifications to take place
>>> concurrently with module unloading. So take the text_mutex while the
>>> memory of the module is freed.
>> 
>> At that point, since the module itself is removed from module list,
>> it seems no actual harm. Or would you have any concern?
> 
> The issue isn't the module list, but rather when it is safe to free the
> contents, so we don't clobber anything. We absolutely need to enforce
> that we can't text_poke() something that might have already been freed.
> 
> That being said, we *also* really would prefer to enforce that we can't
> text_poke() memory that doesn't actually contain code; as far as I can
> tell we don't currently do that check.

Yes, that what the mutex was supposed to achieve. It’s not supposed just
to check whether it is a code page, but also that it is the same code
page that you wanted to patch. 

> This, again, is a good use for a separate mm context. We can enforce
> that that context will only ever contain valid page mappings for actual
> code pages.

This will not tell you that you have the *right* code-page. The module
notifiers help to do so, since they synchronize the text poking with
the module removal.

> (Note: in my proposed algorithm, with a separate mm, replace INVLPG with
> switching CR3 if we have to do a rollback or roll forward in the
> breakpoint handler.)

I really need to read your patches more carefully to see what you mean.

Anyhow, so what do you prefer? I’m ok with either one:
	1. Keep this patch
	2. Remove this patch and change into a comment on text_poke()
	3. Just drop the patch


  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-18  1:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-17  0:32 [PATCH 00/17] Merge text_poke fixes and executable lockdowns Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 01/17] Fix "x86/alternatives: Lockdep-enforce text_mutex in text_poke*()" Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  6:47   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17 21:15     ` hpa
2019-01-17 22:39       ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 22:59         ` hpa
2019-01-17 23:14           ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 23:19           ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-01-18  2:40             ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-25  9:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-25 18:28     ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 02/17] x86/jump_label: Use text_poke_early() during early init Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 03/17] x86/mm: temporary mm struct Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 04/17] fork: provide a function for copying init_mm Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 05/17] x86/alternative: initializing temporary mm for patching Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 06/17] x86/alternative: use temporary mm for text poking Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17 20:27   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-17 20:47     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-17 21:43       ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 22:29         ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 22:31         ` hpa
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 07/17] x86/kgdb: avoid redundant comparison of patched code Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 08/17] x86/ftrace: set trampoline pages as executable Rick Edgecombe
2019-02-06 16:22   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-06 17:33     ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-06 17:41       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 09/17] x86/kprobes: Instruction pages initialization enhancements Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  6:51   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 10/17] x86: avoid W^X being broken during modules loading Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 11/17] x86/jump-label: remove support for custom poker Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 12/17] x86/alternative: Remove the return value of text_poke_*() Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 13/17] Add set_alias_ function and x86 implementation Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 14/17] mm: Make hibernate handle unmapped pages Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  9:39   ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-17 22:16     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-01-17 23:41       ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-17 23:48         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-01-18  8:16           ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 15/17] vmalloc: New flags for safe vfree on special perms Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 16/17] Plug in new special vfree flag Rick Edgecombe
2019-02-06 16:23   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-07 17:33     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-02-07 17:49       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-07 18:20         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-01-17  0:32 ` [PATCH 17/17] module: Prevent module removal racing with text_poke() Rick Edgecombe
2019-01-17  7:54   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17 18:07     ` Nadav Amit
2019-01-17 23:44       ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-01-18  8:23       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17 23:58     ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-01-18  1:15       ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2019-01-18 13:32         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-17 13:21 ` [PATCH 00/17] Merge text_poke fixes and executable lockdowns Peter Zijlstra

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