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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <kernel.org@kernel.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v39 15/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_PROVISION
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 08:47:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrWxA6AgU8zg=npS=4NaA1_Pu9UwScEnr_Gk0wF-BOmqqQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201024113403.GA29427@kernel.org>

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 4:34 AM Jarkko Sakkinen <kernel.org@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 07:19:05AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On 10/23/20 3:17 AM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 02:19:26PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > >> On 10/2/20 9:50 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > >>> + * Failure to explicitly request access to a restricted attribute will cause
> > >>> + * sgx_ioc_enclave_init() to fail.  Currently, the only restricted attribute
> > >>> + * is access to the PROVISION_KEY.
> > >> Could we also justify why access is restricted, please?  Maybe:
> > >>
> > >>    Access is restricted because PROVISION_KEY is burned uniquely
> > >>    into each each processor, making it a perfect unique identifier
> > >>    with privacy and fingerprinting implications.
> > >>
> > >> Are there any other reasons for doing it this way?
> > > AFAIK, if I interperet the SDM correctl, PROVISION_KEY and
> > > PROVISION_SEALING_KEY also have random salt added, i.e. they change
> > > every boot cycle.
> > >
> > > There is "RAND = yes" on those keys in Table 40-64 of Intel SDM volume
> > > 3D :-)
> >
> > Does that mean there are no privacy implications from access to the
> > provisioning keys?  If that's true, why do we need a separate permission
> > framework for creating provisioning enclaves?
>
> As I've understood it, the key material for those keys is not even
> required in the current SGX architecture, it was used in the legacy EPID
> scheme, but the attribute itself is useful.
>
> Let's assume that we have some sort of quoting enclave Q, which guards a
> public key pair, which signs quotes of other enclaves. Let's assume we
> have an attestation server A, which will enable some capabilities [*],
> if it receives a quote signed with that public key pair.
>
> 1. E gets the report key with EGETKEY.
> 2. E constructs REPORTDATA (37.16) and TARGETINFO (37.17) structures.
>    The former describes the enclaves contents and attributes and latter
>    the target, i.e. Q in this artitificial example.
> 3. E calls EREPORT to generate a structure called REPORT MAC'd with the
>    *targets* report key. It knows, which key to usue from REPORTDATA.
> 4. The runtime will then pass this to Q.
> 5. Q will check if ATTRIBUTE.PROVISION_KEY is set. If it is, Q will
>    know that the enclave is allowed to get attested. Then it will
>    sign the report with the guarded public key pair and send it to
>    the attestation server.

I think you have this a little bit off.  AIUI E won't have
ATTRIBUTE.PROVISION_KEY set -- Q will.  Q uses the provisioning key to
convince an Intel server that it's running on a genuine Intel CPU, and
the Intel server will return a signed certificate that Q can chain off
of to generate attestations for E.

Dave, I would rephrase what you're saying a bit.  The PROVISION_KEY
attribute allows enclaves to access keys that are unique to a
processor and unchangeable.  Unlike other SGX keys, these keys are not
affected by OWNER_EPOCH changes and therefore cannot be reset.

--Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-24 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20201003045059.665934-1-jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
2020-10-03  4:50 ` [PATCH v39 11/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX enclave driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-03 14:39   ` Greg KH
2020-10-04 14:32     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-04 15:01       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-05  9:42       ` Greg KH
2020-10-05 12:42         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-07 18:09           ` Haitao Huang
2020-10-07 19:26             ` Greg KH
2020-10-09  6:44               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-14 20:16                 ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-05  8:45     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-05 11:42       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-05 11:50         ` Greg KH
2020-10-05 14:23           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-05 15:02             ` Greg KH
2020-10-05 16:40               ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-05 20:02                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-09  7:10     ` Pavel Machek
2020-10-09  7:21       ` Greg KH
2020-10-09  8:21         ` Pavel Machek
2020-10-03 19:54   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-04 21:50     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-04 22:02       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-04 22:27       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-04 23:41         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-05  1:30           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-05  3:06             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-03  4:50 ` [PATCH v39 15/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_PROVISION Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-20 15:48   ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-23 10:14     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-20 21:19   ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-23 10:17     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-23 14:19       ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-24 11:34         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-24 15:47           ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2020-10-24 20:23             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-27 10:38               ` Dr. Greg
2020-10-23 14:23       ` Jethro Beekman
2020-10-24 11:40         ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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