From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: jmorris@namei.org (James Morris) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:43:23 +1000 (AEST) Subject: [PATCH v5 5/5] sidechannel: Linux Security Module for sidechannel In-Reply-To: <99FC4B6EFCEFD44486C35F4C281DC67321463CE3@ORSMSX107.amr.corp.intel.com> References: <20180926203446.2004-1-casey.schaufler@intel.com> <20180926203446.2004-6-casey.schaufler@intel.com> <025d4742-5947-545e-f603-502a0c5ee03f@schaufler-ca.com> <99FC4B6EFCEFD44486C35F4C281DC67321463CE3@ORSMSX107.amr.corp.intel.com> Message-ID: To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-security-module.vger.kernel.org On Thu, 27 Sep 2018, Schaufler, Casey wrote: > > > On 9/27/2018 2:45 PM, James Morris wrote: > > > > On Wed, 26 Sep 2018, Casey Schaufler wrote: > > > > > > > >> + /* > > > >> + * Namespace checks. Considered safe if: > > > >> + * cgroup namespace is the same > > > >> + * User namespace is the same > > > >> + * PID namespace is the same > > > >> + */ > > > >> + if (current->nsproxy) > > > >> + ccgn = current->nsproxy->cgroup_ns; > > > >> + if (p->nsproxy) > > > >> + pcgn = p->nsproxy->cgroup_ns; > > > >> + if (ccgn != pcgn) > > > >> + return -EACCES; > > > >> + if (current->cred->user_ns != p->cred->user_ns) > > > >> + return -EACCES; > > > >> + if (task_active_pid_ns(current) != task_active_pid_ns(p)) > > > >> + return -EACCES; > > > >> + return 0; > > > > I really don't like the idea of hard-coding namespace security semantics > > > > in an LSM. Also, I'm not sure if these semantics make any sense. > > > > > > Checks on namespaces where explicitly requested. > > > > By whom and what is the rationale? > > The rationale is to protect containers. Since those closest thing > there is to a definition of containers is "uses namespaces" that > becomes the focus. Separating them out does not make too much > sense as I would expect someone concerned with one to be concerned > with all. A lot of people will not be using user namespaces due to security concerns, so with this hard-coded logic, you are saying this case is 'safe' in a sidechannel context. Which hints at the deeper issue that containers are a userland abstraction. Protection of containers needs to be defined by userland policy. -- James Morris