From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856FEC433E0 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 02:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8442067B for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 02:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726260AbgFDCNP (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Jun 2020 22:13:15 -0400 Received: from namei.org ([65.99.196.166]:40866 "EHLO namei.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725946AbgFDCNP (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Jun 2020 22:13:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by namei.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 0542D9ZU000367; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 02:13:09 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 12:13:09 +1000 (AEST) From: James Morris To: Casey Schaufler cc: Linus Torvalds , Paul Moore , selinux@vger.kernel.org, LSM List , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] SELinux patches for v5.8 In-Reply-To: <761f5d15-3422-1834-7be5-8f3276d10172@schaufler-ca.com> Message-ID: References: <290017a8-d943-570f-1f90-acecf1c075a1@schaufler-ca.com> <761f5d15-3422-1834-7be5-8f3276d10172@schaufler-ca.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LRH 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: On Wed, 3 Jun 2020, Casey Schaufler wrote: > On 6/3/2020 3:12 PM, James Morris wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2020, Casey Schaufler wrote: > > > >> The use of security modules was expected to be rare. > > This is not correct. Capabilities were ported to LSM and stacked from the > > beginning, and several major distros worked on LSM so they could ship > > their own security modules. > > Capabilities has always been a special case. > Until Android adopted SELinux the actual use of LSMs was rare. Nope, it was enabled by default in several distros and very widely deployed in the govt space (at least). -- James Morris