Re: [PATCH bpf-next v5 4/7] bpf: lsm: Implement attach, detach and execution

From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@chromium.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	Florent Revest <revest@google.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Florent Revest <revest@chromium.org>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@chromium.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v5 4/7] bpf: lsm: Implement attach, detach and execution
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 09:25:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d578d19f-1d3b-f60d-f803-2fcb46721a4a@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEjxPJ4YnCCeQUTK36Ao550AWProHrkrW1a6K5RKuKYcPcfhyA@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:50 AM KP Singh <kpsingh@chromium.org> wrote:
>> On 24-Mär 10:35, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 12:46 PM KP Singh <kpsingh@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>> From: KP Singh <kpsingh@google.com>
>>>> diff --git a/kernel/bpf/bpf_lsm.c b/kernel/bpf/bpf_lsm.c
>>>> index 530d137f7a84..2a8131b640b8 100644
>>>> --- a/kernel/bpf/bpf_lsm.c
>>>> +++ b/kernel/bpf/bpf_lsm.c
>>>> @@ -9,6 +9,9 @@
>>>>  #include <linux/btf.h>
>>>>  #include <linux/lsm_hooks.h>
>>>>  #include <linux/bpf_lsm.h>
>>>> +#include <linux/jump_label.h>
>>>> +#include <linux/kallsyms.h>
>>>> +#include <linux/bpf_verifier.h>
>>>>
>>>>  /* For every LSM hook  that allows attachment of BPF programs, declare a NOP
>>>>   * function where a BPF program can be attached as an fexit trampoline.
>>>> @@ -27,6 +30,32 @@ noinline __weak void bpf_lsm_##NAME(__VA_ARGS__) {}
>>>>  #include <linux/lsm_hook_names.h>
>>>>  #undef LSM_HOOK
>>>>
>>>> +#define BPF_LSM_SYM_PREFX  "bpf_lsm_"
>>>> +
>>>> +int bpf_lsm_verify_prog(struct bpf_verifier_log *vlog,
>>>> +                       const struct bpf_prog *prog)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       /* Only CAP_MAC_ADMIN users are allowed to make changes to LSM hooks
>>>> +        */
>>>> +       if (!capable(CAP_MAC_ADMIN))
>>>> +               return -EPERM;
>>> I had asked before, and will ask again: please provide an explicit LSM
>>> hook for mediating whether one can make changes to the LSM hooks.
>>> Neither CAP_MAC_ADMIN nor CAP_SYS_ADMIN suffices to check this for SELinux.
>> What do you think about:
>>
>>   int security_check_mutable_hooks(void)
>>
>> Do you have any suggestions on the signature of this hook? Does this
>> hook need to be BPF specific?
> I'd do something like int security_bpf_prog_attach_security(const
> struct bpf_prog *prog) or similar.
> Then the security module can do a check based on the current task
> and/or the prog.  We already have some bpf-specific hooks.

I *strongly* disagree with Stephen on this. KRSI and SELinux are peers.
Just as Yama policy is independent of SELinux policy so KRSI policy should
be independent of SELinux policy. I understand the argument that BDF programs
ought to be constrained by SELinux, but I don't think it's right. Further,
we've got unholy layering when security modules call security_ functions.
I'm not saying there is no case where it would be appropriate, but this is not
one of them.