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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Sergey Shtylyov <s.shtylyov@omp.ru>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:41:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdXVbRudGs69f9ZzaP1PXhteDNZiXA658eMFAwP4nr9r3w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9026f17-2b3f-ee94-0ea3-5630f981fbc1@omp.ru>

On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 9:22 PM Sergey Shtylyov <s.shtylyov@omp.ru> wrote:
> On 1/14/22 11:22 PM, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > You have to understand that for clk (and regulator and gpiod) NULL is a
> > valid descriptor that can actually be used, it just has no effect. So
> > this is a convenience value for the case "If the clk/regulator/gpiod in
> > question isn't available, there is nothing to do". This is what makes
> > clk_get_optional() and the others really useful and justifies their
> > existence. This doesn't apply to platform_get_irq_optional().
>
>    I do understand that. However, IRQs are a different beast with their
> own justifications...

> > clk_get_optional() is sane and sensible for cases where the clk might be
> > absent and it helps you because you don't have to differentiate between
> > "not found" and "there is an actual resource".
> >
> > The reason for platform_get_irq_optional()'s existence is just that
> > platform_get_irq() emits an error message which is wrong or suboptimal
>
>    I think you are very wrong here. The real reason is to simplify the
> callers.

Indeed.

Even for clocks, you cannot assume that you can always blindly use
the returned dummy (actually a NULL pointer) to call into the clk
API.  While this works fine for simple use cases, where you just
want to enable/disable an optional clock (clk_prepare_enable() and
clk_disable_unprepare()), it does not work for more complex use cases.

Consider a device with multiple clock inputs, some of them optional,
where the device driver has to find, select and configure a suitable
clock to operate at a certain clock frequency. The driver can call
clk_get_rate(NULL) fine, but will always receive a zero rate, so it
has to check for this (regardless of this being a dummy clock or not,
because this could be an unpopulated clock crystal, which would be
described in DT as a (present) fixed-rate clock with clock-frequency
= <0>).
For configuring the clock rate, the driver does need to check
explicitly for the presence of a dummy clock, as clk_set_rate(NULL,
rate) returns 0 ("success"), while obviously it didn't do anything,
and thus configuring the device to use that clock would cause breakage.

You can check if the clock is a real clock or a dummy using
"if (clk) ...".
And you'd use the same pattern with platform_irq_get_optional() if it
would return 0 if the IRQ was not found: "if (irq) ...".

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-17  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220110195449.12448-1-s.shtylyov@omp.ru>
2022-01-10 19:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-10 20:10   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-10 21:07     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-10 21:44       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-10 21:18     ` Andrew Lunn
2022-01-12  8:33       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12  8:50         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-12 10:27           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12 12:27             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-12 13:38             ` Andrew Lunn
2022-01-12 13:51               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-12 13:54               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12 14:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-01-12 15:05                   ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-12 15:13                     ` Hans de Goede
2022-01-12 15:48                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-01-12 16:21                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-12 21:31             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-12 21:45               ` Mark Brown
2022-01-13 11:08                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-13 14:45                   ` Mark Brown
2022-01-13 19:43                     ` [PATCH] driver core: platform: Rename platform_get_irq_optional() to platform_get_irq_silent() Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-13 20:17                       ` Mark Brown
2022-01-13 20:57                         ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-13 22:43                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-14  9:58                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-15 15:21                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-15 21:06                                 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 11:34                           ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-13 20:31                       ` Guenter Roeck
2022-01-13 21:42                       ` Florian Fainelli
2022-01-13 23:06                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-14 17:55                         ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-15 13:55                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 18:36                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-19 19:44                               ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 18:40                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-14  6:57                       ` Peter Korsgaard
2022-01-14 13:04                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-15 15:45                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 18:51                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-19 19:47                             ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 20:55                               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-20  7:57                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-24 15:01                               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-24 21:02                                 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-25  8:25                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-25 12:56                                     ` Matthias Schiffer
2022-01-25 14:01                                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-14 19:45                       ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 20:29                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-15 13:08                           ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 18:52                         ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-13 20:35                 ` [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14  9:25                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-14  9:39                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-14 19:14                     ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 20:22                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-15 20:22                         ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-17  8:41                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2022-01-17  9:24                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-17 10:35                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 11:49                                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-17 13:08                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 17:06                                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18  8:25                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18  9:09                                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18  9:37                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 12:08                                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18 12:49                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 14:29                                                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 16:12                                                   ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 18:29                                                     ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-20 11:27                                     ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-16 18:15                         ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-17  8:47                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18 20:21                             ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-18 22:26                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 15:34                                 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 18:58                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-19 19:49                               ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 18:46                   ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-15 18:36   ` [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional (summary) Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-16 14:19     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-18  9:18       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18  9:32         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-19 10:56         ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 11:33           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 11:42             ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 19:06     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-17 11:57   ` [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 15:02     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 15:50       ` Sergey Shtylyov

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