From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"Christopherson, Sean J" <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
Jethro Beekman <jethro@fortanix.com>,
Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>, <nhorman@redhat.com>,
<npmccallum@redhat.com>, "Ayoun, Serge" <serge.ayoun@intel.com>,
<shay.katz-zamir@intel.com>, <linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"Adhemerval Zanella" <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
<carlos@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: userspace exception fixups
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 14:30:37 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181101183037.GB5150@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877ehwisaa.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 07:09:17PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Andy Lutomirski:
>
> > The basic idea would be to allow libc, or maybe even any library, to
> > register a handler that gets a chance to act on an exception caused by
> > a user instruction before a signal is delivered. As a straw-man
> > example for how this could work, there could be a new syscall:
> >
> > long register_exception_handler(void (*handler)(int, siginfo_t *, void *));
> >
> > If a handler is registered, then, if a synchronous exception happens
> > (page fault, etc), the kernel would set up an exception frame as usual
> > but, rather than checking for signal handlers, it would just call the
> > registered handler. That handler is expected to either handle the
> > exception entirely on its own or to call one of two new syscalls to
> > ask for normal signal delivery or to ask to retry the faulting
> > instruction.
>
> Would the exception handler be a per-thread resource?
>
> If it is: Would the setup and teardown overhead be prohibitive for many
> use cases (at least those do not expect a fault)?
>
> Something peripherally related to this interface: Wrappers for signal
> handlers (and not just CPU exceptions). Ideally, we want to maintain a
> flag that indicates whether we are in a signal handler, and save and
> restore errno around the installed handler.
I think the right way to make it per-thread AND low-cost would be to
register not the handler, but the (per-thread) address of a
function-pointer object pointing to the handler. Then switching the
handler just requires a single volatile store to thread-local memory,
no syscall.
Rich
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"Christopherson, Sean J" <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
Jethro Beekman <jethro@fortanix.com>,
Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
nhorman@redhat.com, npmccallum@redhat.com, "Ayoun,
Serge" <serge.ayoun@intel.com>,
shay.katz-zamir@intel.com, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
carlos@redhat.com
Subject: Re: RFC: userspace exception fixups
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 14:30:37 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181101183037.GB5150@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
Message-ID: <20181101183037.dA1IWZH5orSiiZx3BTrdrjKYKErBBjEtKo-v_G371Bg@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877ehwisaa.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 07:09:17PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Andy Lutomirski:
>
> > The basic idea would be to allow libc, or maybe even any library, to
> > register a handler that gets a chance to act on an exception caused by
> > a user instruction before a signal is delivered. As a straw-man
> > example for how this could work, there could be a new syscall:
> >
> > long register_exception_handler(void (*handler)(int, siginfo_t *, void *));
> >
> > If a handler is registered, then, if a synchronous exception happens
> > (page fault, etc), the kernel would set up an exception frame as usual
> > but, rather than checking for signal handlers, it would just call the
> > registered handler. That handler is expected to either handle the
> > exception entirely on its own or to call one of two new syscalls to
> > ask for normal signal delivery or to ask to retry the faulting
> > instruction.
>
> Would the exception handler be a per-thread resource?
>
> If it is: Would the setup and teardown overhead be prohibitive for many
> use cases (at least those do not expect a fault)?
>
> Something peripherally related to this interface: Wrappers for signal
> handlers (and not just CPU exceptions). Ideally, we want to maintain a
> flag that indicates whether we are in a signal handler, and save and
> restore errno around the installed handler.
I think the right way to make it per-thread AND low-cost would be to
register not the handler, but the (per-thread) address of a
function-pointer object pointing to the handler. Then switching the
handler just requires a single volatile store to thread-local memory,
no syscall.
Rich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-01 18:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-01 17:53 RFC: userspace exception fixups Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-01 17:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-01 18:09 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-01 18:09 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-01 18:30 ` Rich Felker [this message]
2018-11-01 18:30 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 19:00 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-01 19:00 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-01 18:27 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 18:27 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 18:33 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-01 18:33 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-01 18:52 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 18:52 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-01 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-01 19:31 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 19:31 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-01 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-01 23:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-01 23:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 16:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 16:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 16:37 ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-02 16:37 ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-02 16:52 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 16:52 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 16:56 ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-02 16:56 ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-02 17:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 17:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 17:05 ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-02 17:05 ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-02 17:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 17:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 17:32 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-02 17:32 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-02 17:12 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 17:12 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 22:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-02 22:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-02 16:56 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-02 16:56 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-02 17:06 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 17:06 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 17:13 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-02 17:13 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-02 17:33 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 17:33 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 17:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 17:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 18:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 18:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 19:02 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-02 19:02 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-02 22:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 22:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 23:27 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-02 23:27 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-02 23:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 23:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 23:36 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-02 23:36 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-06 15:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 15:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 16:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 16:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 17:03 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 17:03 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 17:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 17:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 18:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 18:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 18:41 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 18:41 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 19:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 19:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 19:22 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 19:22 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 20:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 20:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 21:00 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 21:00 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 21:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 21:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 21:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 21:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 21:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 21:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 23:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 23:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 23:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 23:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 23:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 23:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-07 0:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 0:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 1:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-07 1:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-07 6:47 ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-07 6:47 ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-07 15:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 15:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 19:01 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 19:01 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 20:56 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-07 20:56 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-08 15:04 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-08 15:04 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-08 19:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-08 19:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-08 20:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-08 20:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-08 20:10 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-08 20:10 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-08 21:16 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-08 21:16 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-08 21:50 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-08 21:50 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-08 22:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-08 22:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-09 7:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-09 7:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-06 23:17 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-06 23:17 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-06 23:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 23:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 21:27 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-07 21:27 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-07 21:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-07 21:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-07 21:40 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 21:40 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-08 15:11 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-08 15:11 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-06 17:00 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 17:00 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-02 22:37 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-02 22:37 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-01 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-01 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-02 22:07 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-02 22:07 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-18 7:15 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-18 7:18 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-18 13:02 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-19 5:17 ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-19 14:05 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-19 14:59 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-19 15:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-19 16:02 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-19 17:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-20 10:11 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-20 15:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-20 22:55 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-21 5:17 ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-21 15:17 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-24 17:07 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-26 14:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-26 22:06 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-20 18:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-20 22:46 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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