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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Dr. Greg" <greg@enjellic.com>
Cc: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com,
	asapek@google.com, bp@alien8.de, cedric.xing@intel.com,
	chenalexchen@google.com, conradparker@google.com,
	cyhanish@google.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	haitao.huang@intel.com, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	kai.huang@intel.com, kai.svahn@intel.com, kmoy@google.com,
	ludloff@google.com, luto@kernel.org, nhorman@redhat.com,
	npmccallum@redhat.com, puiterwijk@redhat.com,
	rientjes@google.com, tglx@linutronix.de, yaozhangx@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v36 23/24] docs: x86/sgx: Document SGX micro architecture and kernel internals
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 00:18:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200808221808.GB1020@bug> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200806102148.GA14798@wind.enjellic.com>

Hi!

> Good morning, I hope the week is progressing well for everyone.
> 
> > > CPUs starting from Icelake use Total Memory Encryption (TME) in
> > > the place of MEE. TME throws away the Merkle tree, which means
> > > losing integrity and anti-replay protection but also enables
> > > variable size memory pools for EPC.  Using this attack for
> > > benefit would require an interposer on the system bus.
> 
> > It is not exactly clear what "this attack" means.
> 
> In the new world that is SGX, 'this attack', roughly means that
> enclaves are susceptible to the same security threats that would be
> faced if you were running TLS/HTTPS or SSH without packet checksums
> and replay avoidance/detection mechanisms in place.

Umm, ssh w/o checksums would be rather dangerous, no? As in... if I can guess what you
are typing, I can make you type something else.

Anyway, it would be nice to somehow fix the document. It talks about "this attack"
without talking about any attack before, which is bad style.

Best regards,
									Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-08 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-16 13:52 [PATCH v36 00/24] Intel SGX foundations Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 01/24] x86/cpufeatures: x86/msr: Add Intel SGX hardware bits Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 13:13   ` Darren Kenny
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 02/24] x86/cpufeatures: x86/msr: Add Intel SGX Launch Control " Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 13:14   ` Darren Kenny
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 03/24] x86/mm: x86/sgx: Signal SIGSEGV with PF_SGX Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 13:16   ` Darren Kenny
2020-08-20 15:31   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-08-21 17:35     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 04/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX microarchitectural data structures Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 13:14   ` Darren Kenny
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 05/24] x86/sgx: Add wrappers for ENCLS leaf functions Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-07  9:37   ` Darren Kenny
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 06/24] x86/cpu/intel: Detect SGX support Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 13:17   ` Darren Kenny
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 07/24] x86/cpu/intel: Add nosgx kernel parameter Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 13:18   ` Darren Kenny
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 08/24] x86/sgx: Initialize metadata for Enclave Page Cache (EPC) sections Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 13:27   ` Darren Kenny
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 09/24] x86/sgx: Add __sgx_alloc_epc_page() and sgx_free_epc_page() Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 13:29   ` Darren Kenny
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 10/24] mm: Add vm_ops->mprotect() Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 13:35   ` Darren Kenny
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 11/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX enclave driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 13:59   ` Darren Kenny
2020-08-25 16:44   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-08-26 13:46     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 12/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_CREATE Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 15:40   ` Darren Kenny
2020-08-26 14:52   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-08-27 13:24     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-27 16:15       ` Borislav Petkov
2020-08-28 23:39         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-29  0:21       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-01 16:41   ` Haitao Huang
2020-09-04 11:55     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 13/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_ADD_PAGES Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 16:29   ` Darren Kenny
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 14/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_INIT Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 16:40   ` Darren Kenny
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 15/24] x86/sgx: Allow a limited use of ATTRIBUTE.PROVISIONKEY for attestation Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 17:00   ` Darren Kenny
2020-08-18 13:30     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 16/24] x86/sgx: Add a page reclaimer Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 17/24] x86/sgx: ptrace() support for the SGX driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 18/24] x86/vdso: Add support for exception fixup in vDSO functions Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 19/24] x86/fault: Add helper function to sanitize error code Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v36 20/24] x86/traps: Attempt to fixup exceptions in vDSO before signaling Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:53 ` [PATCH v36 21/24] x86/vdso: Implement a vDSO for Intel SGX enclave call Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-06 14:55   ` Nathaniel McCallum
2020-08-10 22:23     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-11  7:16       ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-11 14:54         ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-18 14:52       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-18 15:06         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-18 15:15           ` Nathaniel McCallum
2020-08-18 16:43             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-19 13:33               ` Nathaniel McCallum
2020-08-19 14:00                 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-19 21:23                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-10 23:08     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-10 23:48       ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-11  0:52         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-11 15:16           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-13 19:38             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-17 13:12       ` Nathaniel McCallum
2020-08-17 15:01         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-18 15:15       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-20  0:19         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-18 14:26     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:53 ` [PATCH v36 22/24] selftests/x86: Add a selftest for SGX Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-27  4:47   ` Nathaniel McCallum
2020-08-27 15:20     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-28 23:27       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:53 ` [PATCH v36 23/24] docs: x86/sgx: Document SGX micro architecture and kernel internals Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-28 21:35   ` Pavel Machek
2020-08-06 10:21     ` Dr. Greg
2020-08-08 22:18       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2020-08-19 20:55     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-16 13:53 ` [PATCH v36 24/24] x86/sgx: Update MAINTAINERS Jarkko Sakkinen

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