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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org,
	Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	Nathaniel McCallum <nathaniel@profian.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<x86@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"open list:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" 
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] x86: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_AUGMENT_PAGES
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 04:32:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YiLLrDure3canJYy@iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YiLISeGl1mpzY/09@kernel.org>

On Sat, Mar 05, 2022 at 04:17:53AM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 09:08:20AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On 3/4/22 04:28, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > Explicit EAUG ioctl is a better choice than an implicit EAUG from a page
> > > fault handler because it allows to have O(1) number of kernel-enclave round
> > > trips for EAUG-EACCEPT{COPY} process, instead of O(n), as it is in the case
> > > when a page fault handler EAUG single page at a time.
> > 
> > So this is basically an optimization?  It's MADV_WILLNEED or
> > MAP_POPULATE to the cost of avoid future faults?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> So the idea would be that based on these the #PF handler would have more
> smartness, and it would do a batch of EAUG's?
> 
> That could be possibly acceptable but I also had other concern.
> 
> I would like to see this:
> 
> 1. Removal of vm_run_prot_bits.
> 2. Use RWX vm_max_prot_bits for EAUG'd pages.
> 
> During run-time kernel controls PTE's, and enclave has full control of the
> EPCM (EACCEPT, EACCEPTCOPY, EMODPE). By creating artificial limitations how
> to operate with these, it can limit various optimizations in the user space
> code. E.g. a syscall shim can require clever co-operation between in-enclave
> opcodes and what you do with the kernel in various situations.
> 
> RWX sounds provocative yes, but here it means only the limits where kernel
> can set its PTE's and nothing else, not that page table is filled with RWX
> pages, and enclave dictates what is in EPCM, and that's how it actually
> should be (e.g. you can sometimes deliver mmap() without ever going out
> of the enclave with EMODPE).
> 
> If MADV_WILLNEED/MAP_POPULATE approach is combined with this what I
> discussed here, then I think we could have solution to write an efficient
> memory management shims.

Do you already have a rough idea what needs to be done? I can take anyway a
look but just in case you had processed this further, please tell what you
have.

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-05  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-04 12:28 [PATCH RFC] x86: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_AUGMENT_PAGES Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-03-04 13:50 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-03-06 15:20   ` Haitao Huang
2022-03-06 16:30     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-03-04 16:27 ` Haitao Huang
2022-03-05  1:26   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-03-06 13:38     ` Haitao Huang
2022-03-06 16:18       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-03-04 17:08 ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-05  2:17   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-03-05  2:32     ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2022-03-05  2:55       ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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