From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org>,
Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
"jarkko@kernel.org" <jarkko@kernel.org>,
Vijay Dhanraj <vijay.dhanraj@intel.com>,
"haitao.huang@linux.intel.com" <haitao.huang@linux.intel.com>,
"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 2/4] x86/sgx: Implement support for MADV_WILLNEED
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 07:23:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZJ2T6zJSnLtKMPnE@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60f96055b73932ef3550eb562d2f42440d534e69.camel@intel.com>
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023, Kai Huang wrote:
> On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 07:57 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023, Kai Huang wrote:
> > > (but requires MAP_FIXED).
> >
> > No, SGX doesn't require MAP_FIXED. The requirements of ELRANGE make it extremely
> > unlikely that mmap() will succeed, but it's not a strict requirement.
>
> Looks w/o MAP_FIXED, the driver just uses the generic mm->get_unmapped_area() to
> return the address, which doesn't guarantee the right address will be returned
> at all. Especially when ELRANGE is reserved via mmap(NULL), the
> mmap(/dev/sgx_enclave) will not return the correct address no matter what pgoff
> is used IIUC.
>
> static unsigned long sgx_get_unmapped_area(struct file *file,
> unsigned long addr,
> unsigned long len,
> unsigned long pgoff,
> unsigned long flags)
> {
> if ((flags & MAP_TYPE) == MAP_PRIVATE)
> return -EINVAL;
>
> if (flags & MAP_FIXED)
> return addr;
>
> return current->mm->get_unmapped_area(file, addr, len, pgoff, flags);
> }
>
> So to me userspace has to use MAP_FIXED to get the correct address.
No. As called out below, @addr is still used as a fairly strong hint:
unsigned long
arch_get_unmapped_area_topdown(struct file *filp, const unsigned long addr0,
const unsigned long len, const unsigned long pgoff,
const unsigned long flags)
{
struct vm_area_struct *vma;
struct mm_struct *mm = current->mm;
unsigned long addr = addr0;
struct vm_unmapped_area_info info;
/* requested length too big for entire address space */
if (len > TASK_SIZE)
return -ENOMEM;
/* No address checking. See comment at mmap_address_hint_valid() */
if (flags & MAP_FIXED)
return addr;
/* for MAP_32BIT mappings we force the legacy mmap base */
if (!in_32bit_syscall() && (flags & MAP_32BIT))
goto bottomup;
/* requesting a specific address */ <==================================
if (addr) {
addr &= PAGE_MASK;
if (!mmap_address_hint_valid(addr, len))
goto get_unmapped_area;
vma = find_vma(mm, addr);
if (!vma || addr + len <= vm_start_gap(vma))
return addr;
}
...
}
In practice, I expect most/all userspace implementations do use MAP_FIXED, but
it's not strictly required.
> > > 2) Therefore,�"passing the correct pgoff" in new userspace app doesn't break the
> > > current ABI. If the new app chooses to pass the correct pgoff, it will work.
> >
> > Yep.
> >
> > > 3) With additional support of sgx_fadvice(WILLNEED) within the driver, the new
> > > app can use madvice(WILLNEED) if it passes the correct pgoff when mmap(). If
> > > wrong pgoff is passed, then madvice(WILLNEED) will work unexpectedly and could
> > > result in enclave being killed. It's userspace app's responsibility to make
> > > sure the correctness, not the driver's.
> >
> > Hmm, yeah, it's probably ok to lean on documentation if userspace screws up. I
> > generally prefer explicit errors over "undefined behavior", but I don't have a
> > super strong opinion, especially since this isn't my area these days :-)
>
> My argument is for normal file operations, if you use madvice(WILLNEED) but
> didn't mmap() with the correct pgoff, you will end up with kernel acting on the
> wrong portion of the file (which may not result in fatal error, but certainly
> not the correct thing from userspace's perspective).
>
> So kernel doesn't guarantee anything here, but depends on userspace to do things
> correctly.
Fair enough.
> > > 4) Old SGX apps which don't use file-based ABIs and still pass 0 pgoff should
> > > continue to work. No break of old apps either.
> >
> > Yep.
> >
> > > 5) We encourage new apps to always pass the correct pgoff instead of passing 0.
> > >
> > > 6) If needed, we can modify sgx_mmap() to relax the needing to use MAP_FIXED,
> > > but return the enclave's address "based on pgoff from userspace".
> >
> > As above, this isn't a relaxation of anything since MAP_FIXED isn't strictly
> > required, it's simply additional functionality.
> >
> > > This effectively provides additional mmap() ABI for userspace while not
> > > breaking the existing MAP_FIXED ABI.
> >
> > I don't think you want to do this. The MAP_FIXED case won't be affected, but the
> > address provided to mmap() is also used as a hint in the !MAP_FIXED case,, i.e.
> > MAP_FIXED just means use *exactly* this address and don't try anything else. It's
> > unlikely, but not _that_ unlikely, that there are userspace applications that
> > specify the exact address without MAP_FIXED and without the correct pgoff.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-29 14:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-28 4:55 [RFC PATCH v4 0/4] x86/sgx: implement support for MADV_WILLNEED Haitao Huang
2023-01-28 4:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/4] x86/sgx: Export sgx_encl_eaug_page Haitao Huang
2023-01-28 4:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/4] x86/sgx: Implement support for MADV_WILLNEED Haitao Huang
2023-01-28 4:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/4] selftests/sgx: add len field for EACCEPT op Haitao Huang
2023-01-28 4:55 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/4] selftests/sgx: Add test for madvise(..., WILLNEED) Haitao Huang
2023-02-07 23:30 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-02-15 2:38 ` Huang, Kai
2023-02-15 4:42 ` Haitao Huang
2023-02-15 8:46 ` Huang, Kai
2023-02-17 22:29 ` jarkko
2023-02-07 23:29 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/4] selftests/sgx: add len field for EACCEPT op Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-02-07 23:28 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/4] x86/sgx: Implement support for MADV_WILLNEED Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-02-14 9:47 ` Huang, Kai
2023-02-14 19:18 ` Haitao Huang
2023-02-14 20:54 ` Huang, Kai
2023-02-14 21:42 ` Haitao Huang
2023-02-14 22:36 ` Huang, Kai
2023-02-15 3:59 ` Haitao Huang
2023-02-15 8:51 ` Huang, Kai
2023-02-15 15:42 ` Haitao Huang
2023-02-16 7:53 ` Huang, Kai
2023-02-16 17:12 ` Haitao Huang
2023-02-17 22:32 ` jarkko
2023-02-17 23:03 ` Haitao Huang
2023-02-21 22:10 ` jarkko
2023-02-22 1:37 ` Haitao Huang
2023-03-07 23:32 ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-09 0:50 ` Haitao Huang
2023-03-09 11:31 ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-14 14:54 ` Haitao Huang
2023-03-19 13:26 ` jarkko
2023-03-20 9:36 ` Huang, Kai
2023-03-20 14:04 ` jarkko
2023-05-27 0:32 ` Haitao Huang
2023-06-06 4:11 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-07 16:59 ` Haitao Huang
2023-06-16 3:49 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-16 22:05 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-19 11:17 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-22 22:01 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-22 23:21 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-26 22:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-27 11:43 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-27 14:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-28 9:37 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-28 14:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-29 3:10 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-29 14:23 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-06-29 23:29 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 0:14 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-30 0:56 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 1:54 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-06-30 1:57 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-06-30 4:26 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-30 9:35 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-03-12 1:25 ` jarkko
2023-03-12 22:25 ` Huang, Kai
2023-02-17 22:07 ` jarkko
2023-02-17 21:50 ` jarkko
2023-02-07 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/4] x86/sgx: Export sgx_encl_eaug_page Jarkko Sakkinen
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