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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] sh: don't allow non-coherent DMA for NOMMU
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2020 07:24:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200628072446.GB16344@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e908f620-62b8-f106-a1a8-9887f50216fd@landley.net>

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 08:01:17PM -0500, Rob Landley wrote:
> On 6/26/20 3:07 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > The code handling non-coherent DMA depends on being able to remap code
> > as non-cached.  But that can't be done without an MMU, so using this
> > option on NOMMU builds is broken.
> 
> I'm working on a nommu j-core board that's doing DMA behind the OS's back at the
> moment, which I have a todo item to teach the kernel about. The DMA does not go
> through the cache, there's currently a cache flush before looking at the result
> instead.
> 
> How should this be wired up after your patch?

The problem with nommu and non-coherent dma is the dma_alloc_coherent
calls.  Most platforms with an mmu set a nocache bit through the page
tables (including sh), but that option obviously doesn't exist for
nommu.  Some hardware has an uncached window where access is uncached
automatically if access through specific kernel virtual addresses,
for that the architecture needs to impement the arch_dma_set_uncached
helper and select CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_DMA_SET_UNCACHED.  If that also
doesn't exist you'll need some sort of pool of always uncached
memory (set by the firmware or early startup code).  That currently
doesn't exist in generic code, but we have a bunch of architectures
implementing that in arch_dma_alloc.  I plan to have a common
implementation of the pool soon hopefully.

Streaming DMA just works if you reuse the existing
arch_sync_dma_for_device implementation.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-28  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-24 16:26 ioremap and dma cleanups and fixes for superh Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-24 16:26 ` [PATCH 01/10] sh: remove -Werror from Makefiles Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-24 16:26 ` [PATCH 02/10] sh: sort the selects for SUPERH alphabetically Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-24 16:26 ` [PATCH 03/10] sh: remove __KERNEL__ ifdefs from non-UAPI headers Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-24 16:26 ` [PATCH 04/10] sh: move ioremap_fixed details out of <asm/io.h> Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-24 16:26 ` [PATCH 05/10] sh: move the ioremap implementation out of line Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-24 16:26 ` [PATCH 06/10] sh: don't include <asm/io_trapped.h> in <asm/io.h> Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-24 16:26 ` [PATCH 07/10] sh: unexport register_trapped_io and match_trapped_io_handler Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-24 16:26 ` [PATCH 08/10] dma-mapping: consolidate the NO_DMA definition in kernel/dma/Kconfig Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-24 16:26 ` [PATCH 09/10] sh: don't allow non-coherent DMA for NOMMU Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-24 16:26 ` [PATCH 10/10] sh: use the generic dma coherent remap allocator Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  8:07 ` ioremap and dma cleanups and fixes for superh (resend) Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  8:07   ` [PATCH 01/10] sh: remove -Werror from Makefiles Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  8:07   ` [PATCH 02/10] sh: sort the selects for SUPERH alphabetically Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  8:07   ` [PATCH 03/10] sh: remove __KERNEL__ ifdefs from non-UAPI headers Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  8:07   ` [PATCH 04/10] sh: move ioremap_fixed details out of <asm/io.h> Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  8:07   ` [PATCH 05/10] sh: move the ioremap implementation out of line Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  8:07   ` [PATCH 06/10] sh: don't include <asm/io_trapped.h> in <asm/io.h> Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  8:07   ` [PATCH 07/10] sh: unexport register_trapped_io and match_trapped_io_handler Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  8:07   ` [PATCH 08/10] dma-mapping: consolidate the NO_DMA definition in kernel/dma/Kconfig Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  8:07   ` [PATCH 09/10] sh: don't allow non-coherent DMA for NOMMU Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-28  0:53     ` Rob Landley
2020-06-28  7:24       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2020-06-26  8:07   ` [PATCH 10/10] sh: use the generic dma coherent remap allocator Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-14 12:18 ` ioremap and dma cleanups and fixes for superh (2nd resend) Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-14 12:18   ` [PATCH 01/10] sh: remove -Werror from Makefiles Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-14 12:18   ` [PATCH 02/10] sh: sort the selects for SUPERH alphabetically Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-14 12:18   ` [PATCH 03/10] sh: remove __KERNEL__ ifdefs from non-UAPI headers Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-14 12:18   ` [PATCH 04/10] sh: move ioremap_fixed details out of <asm/io.h> Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-14 12:18   ` [PATCH 05/10] sh: move the ioremap implementation out of line Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-14 12:18   ` [PATCH 06/10] sh: don't include <asm/io_trapped.h> in <asm/io.h> Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-14 12:18   ` [PATCH 07/10] sh: unexport register_trapped_io and match_trapped_io_handler Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-14 12:18   ` [PATCH 08/10] dma-mapping: consolidate the NO_DMA definition in kernel/dma/Kconfig Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21  3:17     ` Rich Felker
2020-07-21  5:11       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-22  0:43         ` Rich Felker
2020-07-14 12:18   ` [PATCH 09/10] sh: don't allow non-coherent DMA for NOMMU Christoph Hellwig
2020-08-28  2:00     ` Rich Felker
2020-08-28  2:11       ` Rich Felker
2020-08-28  4:24         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-08-28  9:26           ` Ulf Hansson
2020-08-28 15:09             ` Rich Felker
2020-08-29  8:31               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-08-31 11:28                 ` Ulf Hansson
2020-07-14 12:18   ` [PATCH 10/10] sh: use the generic dma coherent remap allocator Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-14 12:31   ` ioremap and dma cleanups and fixes for superh (2nd resend) John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-14 15:59     ` Rich Felker
2020-07-14 16:10       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-14 23:12         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-14 23:14           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-15  3:12           ` Rich Felker
2020-07-15  6:39             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-15  7:27           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-15  7:37             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-15  8:06               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-15  7:46             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-15  8:07               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]               ` <b5f1853e-031d-c09d-57d2-fb4baffa01ea@physik.fu-berlin.de>
2020-07-15  8:11                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-15  8:27                   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-15 14:37                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-15 15:39                       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-15 16:18                       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-15 18:21                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-15 18:27                           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-16  9:40                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-16 10:05                             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-16 10:29                             ` peterz
2020-07-16 10:54                               ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-16 11:01                                 ` peterz
2020-07-16 11:03                                   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-16 11:37                                     ` peterz
2020-07-16 12:04                                       ` peterz
2020-07-16 18:14                                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-16 19:28                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-16 19:33                                             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-16 11:30                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-16 11:31             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-20 13:38           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-20 13:42             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-07-20 14:53               ` Rich Felker
2020-07-21  3:20                 ` Rich Felker

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