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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: "Helge Deller" <deller@gmx.de>,
	"Javier Martinez Canillas" <javierm@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Vineet Gupta" <vgupta@kernel.org>,
	"Huacai Chen" <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	"WANG Xuerui" <kernel@xen0n.name>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"James E . J . Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	"Sam Ravnborg" <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/5] fbdev: Define framebuffer I/O from Linux' I/O functions
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 16:11:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <260ee591-a71b-4c83-a775-5591d4222cec@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <df6fa134-3a62-0872-e008-393e4a29a5ab@suse.de>

On Sat, Apr 29, 2023, at 14:26, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> Am 28.04.23 um 15:17 schrieb Arnd Bergmann:
>> The only implementations in fbdev are
>> 
>>   1) sparc sbus
>>   2) __raw_writel
>>   3) direct pointer dereference
>> 
>> But none use the byte-swapping writel() implementations, and
>> the only ones that use the direct pointer dereference or sbus
>> are the ones on which these are defined the same as __raw_writel
>
> After thinking a bit more about the requirements, I'd like to got back 
> to v1, but with a different spin. We want to avoid ordering guarantees, 
> so I looked at the _relaxed() helpers, but they seem to swap bytes to 
> little endian.

Right, the _relaxed() oens are clearly wrong, aside from
the byteswap they also include barriers on some architectures
where the __raw_* version is more relaxed than the required
semantics for relaxed.

> I guess we can remove the fb_mem*() functions entirely. They are the 
> same as the non-fb_ counterparts.

These might actually be different in some cases, or sub-optimal
at the moment. memcpy()/memset() don't take __iomem pointers, so they
cause sparse warnings, while the memset_io()/memcpy_fromio()/
memcpy_toio() sometimes fall back to bytewise access that is slower
than word-sized copy. I only looked at the readl/writel style 
functions earlier, no idea what we want here.

> For the fb read/write helpers, I'd 
> like to add them to <asm-generic/fb.h> in a platform-neutral way. They'd 
> be wrappers around __raw_(), as I wouldn't want invocations of  __raw_() 
> functions in the fbdev drivers.

That sounds good to me.

     Arnd

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-29 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-28  9:27 [PATCH v2 0/5] fbdev: Use regular I/O function for framebuffers Thomas Zimmermann
2023-04-28  9:27 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] fbdev/matrox: Remove trailing whitespaces Thomas Zimmermann
2023-04-28 13:00   ` Sam Ravnborg
2023-04-28  9:27 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] ipu-v3: Include <linux/io.h> Thomas Zimmermann
2023-04-28 13:01   ` Sam Ravnborg
2023-04-28  9:27 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] fbdev: Include <linux/io.h> in various drivers Thomas Zimmermann
2023-04-28 13:01   ` Sam Ravnborg
2023-04-28  9:27 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] fbdev: Include <linux/io.h> in drivers Thomas Zimmermann
2023-04-28 13:07   ` Sam Ravnborg
2023-04-28 13:13     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-04-28  9:27 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] fbdev: Define framebuffer I/O from Linux' I/O functions Thomas Zimmermann
2023-04-28 12:18   ` Robin Murphy
2023-04-28 12:27     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-04-28 12:59       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-04-28 13:10       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-04-28 13:17       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-04-29 12:26         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-04-29 14:11           ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-04-28 13:12   ` Sam Ravnborg
2023-04-28 14:18     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-04-28 16:54       ` Sam Ravnborg
2023-04-29 12:28         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-04-28 13:13 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] fbdev: Use regular I/O function for framebuffers Sam Ravnborg

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