From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D0AC28CC5 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 20:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE7C2166E for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 20:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b="vScgfkbV"; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" (0-bit key) header.d=lohutok.net header.i=@lohutok.net header.b="eZGP9O/D" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727372AbfFHUiv (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jun 2019 16:38:51 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com ([173.228.157.53]:62672 "EHLO pb-smtp21.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727324AbfFHUiv (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jun 2019 16:38:51 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CF45B62C for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 16:38:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from allison@lohutok.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=subject:to :references:from:message-id:date:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=dkBtghHEWj7h F58T1/vlgADE0Vw=; b=vScgfkbVg/falzptissoF8v/cddY11+Q145SXK2Vj787 13vyMuR/aENa7iNNOq7gtcjKomjMsoaEA/AoWPcYX9BJLrhGvCWSLK/1lAxSXihh sSpHxnDywv/B4R4cFxFOXw0rn/3nsGkGY+K0frRowJtrU5eEjVQ9JiQ2BD1S9ZE= Received: from pb-smtp21.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F74D5B62A for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 16:38:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from allison@lohutok.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=lohutok.net; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=2018-11.pbsmtp; bh=oFe3Og27q2VPYBKrXEnqvc9XADDWktgHbLzZpwnAPZQ=; b=eZGP9O/D5RQkVv57s9vvwf/bR/HSc2QeiCDqyaWy7yw7IcRuOdOcb30g/FsCrgv3mr19BzFOZmh0ocunwxSEPlFrsI9Tl9OFYcG1FaZe0p7yMRNm1uyIurc7/C4fQQIeHi8TGvlDDt5/Jkns4UMgBt+hGz19bQgepH0dfz7HyFo= Received: from [10.0.0.75] (unknown [24.47.52.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4186F5B629 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 16:38:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from allison@lohutok.net) Subject: Re: [GOODTITLE patch 0/8] Deep review of the 'good title' disclaimer variant To: linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org References: <20190605150056.362919274@linutronix.de> From: Allison Randal Message-ID: <473c72f1-3be5-7af5-fcf0-027187b31100@lohutok.net> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 16:38:44 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190605150056.362919274@linutronix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 69BAFE26-8A2D-11E9-87A4-8D86F504CC47-44123303!pb-smtp21.pobox.com Sender: linux-spdx-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org On 6/5/19 11:00 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > The following modified disclaimer is beyond my competence so I refrain from > commenting on it and leave it to our lawyer friends to make sense of it. > > Standard disclaimer: > > this program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful but > without any warranty without even the implied warranty of > merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose see the gnu general > public license for more details > > Modified disclaimer: > > this program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful but > without any warranty without even the implied warranty of > merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose good title or non > infringement see the gnu general public license for more details > > The extra bit is: "good title or non infringement" My understanding is that the warranties of title and noninfringement are standard implied warranties, so GPLv2 already disclaims them by disclaiming any implied warranties. But, this seems more legally nuanced, so I'll wait to review until some of the lawyers comment. Allison