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From: Allison Randal <allison@lohutok.net>
To: Richard Fontana <rfontana@redhat.com>
Cc: John Sullivan <johns@fsf.org>, linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Batch 10 patch 02/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 202
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 14:35:42 -0400
Message-ID: <9814f5f7-4972-7571-232d-16333f9f3e9d@lohutok.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC1cPGy4xz9hL5xxv6-7JM4Hdw7OhZChB7pj9W9wc6knP32p9w@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/31/19 4:18 PM, Richard Fontana wrote:
> 
> The first sentence says the code "is licensed under the GNU General
> Public License." It doesn't specify a version. I could read that as
> meaning "is licensed under any version of the GPL" (regardless of how
> we interpret the later-versions clause in GPLv2). The fact that the
> following sentence apparently tried to point to the GPLv2 license text
> doesn't negate the possibility that the previous sentence was a grant
> of license for any version.
> 
> Those copyright notices said 2013, which was 5 years into 2013. If
> that means this license notice dates from 2013, by 2013 a reasonable
> kernel contributor [1] could be expected to know that an un-versioned
> reference to the GPL could refer at least to both GPLv2 and GPLv3 --
> that is, by that time it was common knowledge that there was more than
> one actively-used GPL in the world.
> 
> Anyway it seems very different to me from the more typical sort of
> GPLv2-only notice that alters the standard GNU notice by eliminating
> the "or later" language, so that the reference to "version 2" is in
> the same sentence as the license grant language. What's different in
> this case is that the license grant language is in one sentence, not
> specifying a version, and the only reference to a version is in a
> separate sentence that is just pointing to a license text rather than
> unambiguously stating that the license grant itself is limited to
> version 2.

I'm less convinced by that, since the author gave notice of a specific
version of the GPL, no matter what line the version number is on. It
sounds like GPLv3 already existed when the notice was added, so a
"reasonable kernel contributor" could be reasonably expected to say "or
later" if they meant -or-later.

But, still happy to discuss this one in a batch later, together with
other similar variants.

Allison

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Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-28 17:10 [Batch 10 patch 00/24] Batch 10 of random GPL references/notices Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 01/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 201 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 21:53   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  2:48   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:01   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-29 17:36   ` Richard Fontana
2019-05-31 19:55   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 02/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 202 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 21:54   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  2:49   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:02   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-29 17:39   ` Richard Fontana
2019-05-29 18:08     ` John Sullivan
2019-05-31 14:04       ` Allison Randal
2019-05-31 20:18         ` Richard Fontana
2019-06-02 18:35           ` Allison Randal [this message]
2019-05-31 20:04   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 03/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 203 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 21:54   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  2:53   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:03   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-29 17:40   ` Richard Fontana
2019-05-31 20:05   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 04/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 204 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 21:58   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-28 22:08     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:24       ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  2:55         ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 05/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 205 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 21:59   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  2:56     ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-31 20:12       ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 06/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 206 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:00   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  2:57   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:05   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-29 17:41   ` Richard Fontana
2019-05-31 19:52   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 07/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 207 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:01   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:10   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:06   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-29 17:42   ` Richard Fontana
2019-05-31 20:22   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 08/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 208 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 21:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 09/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 209 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:01   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:17   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:07   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:15   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 10/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 210 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:02   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:17   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:07   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:16   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 11/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 211 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:03   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:18   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:08   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 12/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 212 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 21:06   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:06     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:20       ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 17:35         ` Richard Fontana
2019-05-31 20:25           ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 13/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 213 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:05   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:21   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:10   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:27   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 14/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 214 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:06   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:21   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:10   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:28   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 15/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 215 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:07   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:22   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:11   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:28   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 16/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 216 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:08   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:22   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:12   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 17/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 217 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:08   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:23   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:12   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:31   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 18/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 218 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:09   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:23   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:13   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:32   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 19/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 220 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:10   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:23   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29  3:26   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-29 10:14   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:32   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 20/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 221 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:11   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:26   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:15   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:33   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 21/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 222 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:12   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:27   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:16   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:34   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 22/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 223 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:12   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:27   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:16   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:35   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 23/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 224 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:13   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:28   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:17   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:36   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-28 17:10 ` [Batch 10 patch 24/24] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 225 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-28 22:13   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-29  3:29   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-29 10:18   ` Zavras, Alexios
2019-05-31 20:36   ` Kate Stewart

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