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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Richard Fontana <rfontana@redhat.com>
Cc: Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@nexb.com>,
	linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org,
	Steve Winslow <swinslow@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 16/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 16
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 19:28:35 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1905201915150.1635@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC1cPGzUmbOrYZP9wth4fc639Kan+mXqrzB0DbNLofskVxYMJw@mail.gmail.com>

Richard,

On Mon, 20 May 2019, Richard Fontana wrote:
> First, from an SPDX conformance perspective (I assume this whole
> exercise aims to be SPDX conformant, although I'm not really clear on

Yes, the aim is to have a SPDX clean source tree, which has removed all the
randomly chosen boilerplate/references etc.

The review process here is conducted to actually spot the cases where the
machine decided (on whatever base) something which is not 100% clear.

We sort out these cases and we need to do further investigation, talk to
copyright holders or eventually come up with some extra SPDX tag which
expresses the magic extra bits, in this case the disclaimer.

> GPLv3 says: "for material you add to a covered work, you may (if
> authorized by the copyright holders of that material) supplement the
> terms of this License with terms:
> a) Disclaiming warranty or limiting liability differently from the
> terms of sections 15 and 16 of this License;" , which is treated as an
> allowable additional restriction. And this codified an occasional
> practice under GPLv2 which I believe the FSF had authorized. So if one
> copyright holder decided to tack on the BSD disclaimer language to an
> otherwise standard GPLv2 notice, that presumably should be treated
> like an additional restriction, which needs to be left in place, and
> perhaps even the appropriate thing is to define an SPDX identifier to
> account for the additional language. (Given the way "exception" is
> sort of defined at https://spdx.org/licenses/exceptions-index.html it
> might not be appropriate to use the "WITH" syntax.)

Right. I'm not a SPDX wizard, but I think we need a new SPDX id,
e.g. BSD-DISCLAIMER or something to that effect and then have

SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-or-later AND BSD-DISCLAIMER

as the concluded license, which allows us to remove both the GPL
boilerplate and the disclaimer. Right now we can't do anything because the
BSD-DISCLAIMER id does not exist.

As you explained above something like this is needed anyway as it's going
to happen with GPLv3 as well and it seems it's sufficiently wide spread
even in the kernel code.

Thanks,

	tglx

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Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-19 13:51 [patch 00/25] First batch Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 01/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 1 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:23   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 17:28     ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 21:47       ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:03   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-20  9:00   ` Greg KH
2019-05-20  9:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-20  9:22       ` Greg KH
2019-05-20 20:13         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-21 14:18   ` Michael Ellerman
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 02/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 2 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:29   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 21:50   ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  0:44     ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-20  4:00     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-20 17:17       ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-20 17:47         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-20 18:09           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-20 21:14           ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20 22:07     ` Philippe Ombredanne
2019-05-20 22:34       ` Allison Randal
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 03/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 3 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:24   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 17:30     ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 21:51       ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:04   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 04/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 4 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:25   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 21:53     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:05   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 05/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 5 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:25   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 21:54     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:05   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:20   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 06/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 6 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:28   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 22:32     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  0:53   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-20 11:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-20 16:50       ` Philippe Ombredanne
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 07/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 7 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:29   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 22:35     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:06   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:21   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 08/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 8 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:30   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 22:40     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  0:57   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-20  8:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 09/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 9 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:30   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:17     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:06   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:21   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 10/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 10 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:31   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:18     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:06   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:22   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 11/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 11 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:31   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:19     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:07   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:22   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 12/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 12 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:36   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:26     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:07   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:23   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 13/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 13 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:38   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:27     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:08   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:24   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-21 14:20   ` Michael Ellerman
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 14/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 14 Thomas Gleixner
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2019-05-19 17:49     ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:30       ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:08   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:26   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 15/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 15 Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]   ` <345D7893-767F-42C5-A73D-599338174AAA@jilayne.com>
2019-05-19 17:50     ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:40       ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:09   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:26   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 16/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 16 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:41   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:40     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  0:27   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-20  0:42     ` Richard Fontana
2019-05-20  2:42       ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  5:25         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-20 16:38       ` Philippe Ombredanne
2019-05-20 17:10         ` Richard Fontana
2019-05-20 17:28           ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2019-05-20 22:43             ` Philippe Ombredanne
2019-05-20  8:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 17/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 17 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:41   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:41     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:10   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:28   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 18/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 18 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:42   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:49     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:10   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:28   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 19/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 19 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:50   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:50     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:11   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:29   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 20/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 20 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:43   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:57     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:11   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:30   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 21/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 21 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:44   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-19 23:58     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:11   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:31   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 22/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 22 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:45   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-20  1:26     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:11   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:34   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-21  5:46     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 23/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 23 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:45   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-20  1:27     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:12   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:35   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 24/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 24 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:51   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-20  1:29     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:15   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:36   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-19 13:51 ` [patch 25/25] treewide: Replace GPLv2 boilerplate/reference with SPDX - rule 25 Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-19 17:52   ` J Lovejoy
2019-05-20  1:31     ` Allison Randal
2019-05-20  1:15   ` Steve Winslow
2019-05-21  1:37   ` Kate Stewart
2019-05-21 10:20 ` [patch 00/25] First batch Greg KH
2019-05-21 10:24   ` Thomas Gleixner

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