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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Balbir Singh
	<bsingharora-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] drivers: spi/i2c: account completions as iowait
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:59:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141102165943.GT10501@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1414936689-2707-1-git-send-email-wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>

On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 02:58:07PM +0100, Wolfram Sang wrote:

> However, researching the net, users currently interpret iowait entirely as
> blkio wait. Furthermore, io_schedule() calls delayacct_blkio_{start|end}() which
> worked fine for my tests with I2C but might show that iowait was really meant as
> blkiowait? So, should other subsystems use it?

I would tend to agree with that; historically this has always been about
blkio, not device io.

> To make it more confusing, some people (like Peter Zijlstra [1]) seem to like
> iowait gone, so maybe it is all not worth it?

Yeah, iowait accounting is terminally broken :-) Mostly because the
iowait is accounted per-cpu but that is a very tenuous relation because
the IO devices are not per IO and blocking tasks are not associated with
any particular CPU -- after all they're not consuming CPU time.

If people really think its worth; we could invent new IO-wait measure
that do make sense -- maybe, but the current thing is complete bollocks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-02 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-02 13:58 [RFC 0/2] drivers: spi/i2c: account completions as iowait Wolfram Sang
2014-11-02 13:58 ` [RFC 1/2] i2c: " Wolfram Sang
     [not found] ` <1414936689-2707-1-git-send-email-wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-02 13:58   ` [RFC 2/2] spi: " Wolfram Sang
2014-11-02 16:59   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
     [not found]     ` <20141102165943.GT10501-IIpfhp3q70z/8w/KjCw3T+5/BudmfyzbbVWyRVo5IupeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-03 19:31       ` [RFC 0/2] drivers: spi/i2c: " Wolfram Sang
2014-11-03 13:02 ` One Thousand Gnomes
     [not found]   ` <20141103130222.1c53fa39-mUKnrFFms3BCCTY1wZZT65JpZx93mCW/@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-03 19:45     ` Wolfram Sang

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