From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E2BC4338F for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 20:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9A960EFD for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 20:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231521AbhG1U0S (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jul 2021 16:26:18 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:36874 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231158AbhG1U0R (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jul 2021 16:26:17 -0400 Received: from metis.ext.pengutronix.de (metis.ext.pengutronix.de [IPv6:2001:67c:670:201:290:27ff:fe1d:cc33]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C99EC061757 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 13:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from drehscheibe.grey.stw.pengutronix.de ([2a0a:edc0:0:c01:1d::a2]) by metis.ext.pengutronix.de with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m8q7j-0001DY-CD; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:25:51 +0200 Received: from [2a0a:edc0:0:900:1d::77] (helo=ptz.office.stw.pengutronix.de) by drehscheibe.grey.stw.pengutronix.de with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m8q7f-00016c-Jz; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:25:47 +0200 Received: from ukl by ptz.office.stw.pengutronix.de with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m8q7f-00018J-IS; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:25:47 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:25:47 +0200 From: Uwe =?utf-8?Q?Kleine-K=C3=B6nig?= To: Stephen Boyd , Michael Turquette , Claudiu.Beznea@microchip.com Cc: Arnd Bergmann , andy.shevchenko@gmail.com, alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com, Nicolas.Ferre@microchip.com, thierry.reding@gmail.com, lee.jones@linaro.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, o.rempel@pengutronix.de, Ludovic.Desroches@microchip.com, aardelean@deviqon.com, linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, broonie@kernel.org, Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, a.zummo@towertech.it, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, wsa@kernel.org, kernel@pengutronix.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org Subject: About clk maintainership [Was: Re: [PULL] Add variants of devm_clk_get for prepared and enabled clocks enabled clocks] Message-ID: <20210728202547.7uvfwflpruku7yps@pengutronix.de> References: <20210609202123.u5rmw7al4x3rrvun@pengutronix.de> <20210625171434.3xusxpxjprcdqa47@pengutronix.de> <20210705080144.zfbzkm7l3gmnh6st@pengutronix.de> <20210722060654.nudpdtemosi64nlb@pengutronix.de> <20210722081817.2tsjzof4gvldq6ka@pengutronix.de> <20210723091331.wl33wtcvvnejuhau@pengutronix.de> <06e799be-b7c0-5b93-8586-678a449d2239@microchip.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6qq7fthau66l5qry" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <06e799be-b7c0-5b93-8586-678a449d2239@microchip.com> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a0a:edc0:0:c01:1d::a2 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: ukl@pengutronix.de X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on metis.ext.pengutronix.de); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PTX-Original-Recipient: linux-spi@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-spi@vger.kernel.org --6qq7fthau66l5qry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I adapted the Subject in the hope to catch Stephen's and Michael's attention. My impression is that this thread isn't on their radar yet, but the topic here seems important enough to get a matching Subject. On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 09:18:16AM +0000, Claudiu.Beznea@microchip.com wrot= e: > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 11:26:58AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > >> On Thursday, July 22, 2021, Wolfram Sang wrote: > >>>>>> [ some frustration for not getting feedback for clk patches ] > >>>>> What about adding gkh to the list explaining the situation to him? > >>>> Greg doesn't like devm_ stuff. > >>>> > >>>> I already asked Arnd who doesn't want to interfere and akpm who didn= 't > >>>> react either up to now. > >>> Wow, okay, that is frustrating. > >> The situation simply shows the process gap and One Maintainer nowadays= is > >> far from enough to satisfy demands. > >=20 > > Technically there are two maintainers for drivers/clk, Michael Turquette > > and Stephen Boyd. It seems Michael is MIA and Stephen doesn't have the > > capacity to address all requests. > >=20 > >> What I think about is that we need to escalate this to Linus and > >> others and elaborate the mechanisms how to squeeze a new (additional) > >> maintainer when the original one is not responsive. Let=E2=80=99s say = some > >> procedural steps. Otherwise we doomed because of human factor. > >=20 > > Assuming there was some process for this, is there someone who is > > willing to take responsibility here? >=20 > In the last year I worked on AT91 clock drivers and I would be available > for taking responsibility beyond AT91 clocks (if everyone's OK with this), > in whatever form the current maintainers and people in the audience would > agree, if any (co-maintainer or other forms that could be useful). The id= ea > is to help things progress as I also have patches waiting for feedback on > clock mailing list for almost 6 months. >=20 > Let me know if I can be helpful. Wondering about how we can progress here I think it's crucial that Stephen and/or Michael share their thoughts about how they intend to care for drivers/clk in the future. Do you want to keep the maintainer post long-term? Or only for a transitional period until someone else can take care? Is your non-presence only temporal and is it foreseeable that you will increase your efforts in the next weeks/months again? Do you welcome a co-maintainer? What kind of involvement would you consider helpful? Thanks to Claudiu for offering to support here, at least from my side this is very appreciated. 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